Comment on Know Yourself!

fibojoly@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Kill your customers. Kill yourself, as well as your customers.

  Sun tsu did it again!

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  • fibojoly@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wasnt that the Buddha? Kill your parents, kill your master, kill yourself. And your customers.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nah, it was the Buddha who said “You must lash out with every limb, like the octopus who plays the drums. And kill your customers”

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• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think “Know Thyself” comes from an inscription over the entrance to the Temple of Apollo at Delphi

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  • MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Except it’s just “Know Yourself”, because the inscription was in ancient Greek, so when translating it to English, we’d use modern English, not centuries-old English which uses personal pronouns that haven’t been used in English in centuries.

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That doesn’t change anything. Your entire point is that what we translate it to doesn’t change the meaning. So how does that matter?

      My point isn’t that “Know Thyself” is the correct way. I was using that more or less interchangeably, since they’re synonymous. My point was that it comes from the Greek, not from Sun Tzu.

      And unless you can rationalize why the original inscription being in Greek somehow changes that, I don’t see your point.

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      • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It does change the meaning. The only places someone is likely to encounter “thyself” today are in works from Shakespeare or in certain translations of the bible. As a result, people give certain weight to the term “Thyself” that they wouldn’t to the modern meaning of the word “Yourself”. “Thyself” is a word used by gods, “yourself” is a word used by normal people.

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  • Zachariah@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    in the biblical sense, it means “go fuck yourself”

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think it means something more along the lines of “examine your latent biases and underlying assumptions, know the difference between perception and reality” but “go fuck yourself” works too, I guess…

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  • fibojoly@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes but here I was referring to Sun Tzu’s Art of War in which he explains that if you know yourself (your own forces) and you know your enemy, you will win all your battles. Sorry for the confusion.

    But yeah, perhaps the people in this picture were referring to that one?

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