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• klankin@piefed.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Dont the cards have value?

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  • Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    only on a secondary market in which those companies don’t participate. it’s a paper thin line which keeps trading card game booster packs from beeing gambling in a legal sense

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    • klankin@piefed.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m not at all experienced this stuff so sorry if this is obvious - but how is that different from hardware?

      Its not like valve is reimbursing cash for the hardware after bought, theyre both just some materials (that can be sold elsewhere for cash) right?

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      • Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        the difference is that wotc won’t give you anything for your magic cards, but you can directly sell skins on steam and actually buy something with it, which from my understanding gives the skins direct, and sometimes really high value, which might make this actual gambling, simmiliar to how you exchange your chetons in a casino.

        wotc and other simmiliar companies skirt around that by not acknowledging that a second marekt exists and not participating in it.

        but i am not a lawyer obviously.

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• Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I don’t think that’s how the law is written though. You can only get steam wallet funds for your skins, steam wallet funds explicitly have no cash value. The transaction at that point is done. A video game also has “real world value” you could just as easily say well I get steam wallet funds and than sell gifted games to other people. I don’t think your argument tracks with the law or steams suer agreement.

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  • Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    it’s the only difference i see to other loot boxes or trading card games.

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• notaviking@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So if they did not have any hardware available it would have been fine?

  Maybe Steam should change the policy that store credits cannot be used to buy hardware

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  • Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    thats my understanding of it and if valve loses this, they’ll introduce gabe bucks to buy boxes and keys with and nothing meaningful will change.

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