I still believe that “defund the police”, is the correct choice. The whole damn thing has to go.
The fact that swating still happens just proves how much of a joke policing is in general. The fact that you can get a bunch of gun-wielding adrenaline junkies to show up somewhere, frothing at the mouth for violence, in the most spurious of ways is a damning indictment for the whole institution.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
If you don’t have someone authorized by the state to enforce laws, you’re still going to get people enforcing “laws”, it’s just going to be vigilantes, people with grudges, etc. Just look how frequently you see incidents of road rage. Cops basically exist to prevent people from taking revenge into their own hands.
Take all those incidents of people calling the cops on black men having a picnic or taking their dogs for a walk. If there were no cops, do you think these white “Karens” would just leave the black men alone? Or do you think they’d get together and lynch them?
I think the US needs to scale its policing way back. It needs mental health specialists to respond to certain kinds of calls. The person who responds to a report of a stolen bike probably shouldn’t have a gun. But, at some point you are going to need people who will use physical force to enforce the law. Those people should be heavily supervised by a truly independent body. But, they still need to exist in some form.
7101334@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Cops basically exist to prevent people from taking revenge into their own hands.
No, cops exist to protect capital.
This is just one example too, they’ve issued multiple similar rulings. Also, uh, see: Uvalde.
If there were no cops, do you think these white “Karens” would just leave the black men alone? Or do you think they’d get together and lynch them?
…you think cops keep black people safe? Are you being remotely serious here?
JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
The cops were (and still are) the ones doing the lynching, whether off-duty in white hoods or on duty lol
binux@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yeah, this is what a lot of people fail to take into account when it comes to the purpose of policing in society. There’s obviously a lot of inherent problems with the way the police are structured in a lot of countries as a whole, but to believe that we can just make do without something like them altogether is pretty shortsighted to say the least. I think that prevents a lot of otherwise sympathetic people from taking the backlash against police institutions seriously.
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yea it’s dunny how they just angry downvote, and if they reply at all, they don’t really respond to the points. Who will do the fucking policing if there’s no police??? There will always be people who need to be forcefully stopped from what they’re doing.
luthis@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
Yeah for people downvoting this, cops being a problem is largely an American thing. In many other places around the world they are actually beneficial.
7101334@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Weird how many videos I’ve seen of German police beating anti-genocide protestors and British police arresting seniors for expressing anti-genocide opinions. Maybe that was just an American psyop.
White supremacy is the problem, and America may have the worst case of that, but certainly not the only case.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, Thunberg was definitely arrested in America. Just, uh, don’t google it.
Cops can be amenable with enough controls, sure, but they ultimately serve capital, man.
end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yet they won’t do a damn thing if someone is actually assaulting you.
1984@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Probably shoot you and the aggressor since keeping themselves safe is the priority in their training.