Comment on .ml has got to be the only place on earth where I'd get downvoted for a comment like this

BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  A) you pulled that number out of your ass, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about B) even if A weren’t true the actual real life number of people killed by capitalism blows it out of the water and they do it on purpose

  I’ll take well intentioned mistakes over gleeful evil any day

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• GuyIncognito@lemmy.ml ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Holocaust revisionism. typical.

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  • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think it just depends on which estimates you go off of. No one knows exactly how many people died in each, and while 10x is definitely pushing it, 5x would be more reasonable.

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    • GuyIncognito@lemmy.ml ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A famine caused by mismanagement is a damn sight different from the deliberate and industrialized mass-extermination of entire ethnic groups.

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      • nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Don’t forget millions of girls that went “missing” between 1980 and 2015. This number is also likely higher than the holocaust. Unimaginable.

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      • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        For sure, it’s not really apples to apples. I just don’t really know what you mean by “Holocaust revisionism” in this context.

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    • BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wikipedia claims 6million jews vs 15-55 million chinese starved in famine. So maybe it’s pushing it, but not by much.

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      • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        While they were one of the most prominently targeted, Jewish people were not the only victims the Holocaust. Somewhere between 11-20 million people in total were murdered by the Nazis.

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• SippyCup@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The problem is that the specific argument you point to is often brought up either in complete ignorance or straight up bad faith. Communism bad, look at (insert one of like, 5 events here)

  But let’s ignore the untold millions slaughtered, enslaved, or maimed in the name of profit.

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  • BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The problem is that the specific argument you point to is often brought up either in complete ignorance or straight up bad faith. Communism bad, look at (insert one of like, 5 events here)

    But let’s ignore the untold millions slaughtered, enslaved, or maimed in the name of profit.

    The problem with your argument is that it can be applied to anything.

    “This specific argument is often brought up either in complete ignorance or straight up bad faith. Nazism bad, look at (insert one of like, 5 events here)”

    I could even sprinkle that turd with: “It wasn’t Real National Socialsm! Actual National Socialsm has never been tried!”

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    • SippyCup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ah, so it was brought up in bad faith.

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• taygaloocat@leminal.space ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Totally, we can see socialist systems that work well alongside the free market, most of Scandinavia, Australia, Czech Republic, etc We’ve got the answers, we should just aspire to implement similar policies that actually work

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