Comment on Why do people claim when they buy lets say an M16 Fully Automatic Assault Rifle it is for hunting or self protection? Could you just bow and arrow during a hunt for more of a challenge?

RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The AR-15 derivated guns in 5.56mm tend to be decently mechanically accurate (depending on the exactly setup and blahblahblah) and have a flat trajectory which makes them practically accurate.

  The ability of 5.56mm to wound is velocity dependent. Within the range where the velocity is high enough (600 to 800 meters, again depending on specifics) they are quite damaging, at least to humans. 5.56mm was designed specifically with humans as targets in mind, and designed to kill with hit to the heart/lungs/head. It minimizes recoil to allow the maximum volume of aimed shots in the shortest time, to maximize the chance of hitting a vital.

  For hunting something like deer, a lot of gun people have shown 5.56mm is capable of taking down a deer with a similar hit to the vitals, however many locations still regulate that 5.56mm is not legally allowed, so it’s sort of a moot point.

  For home protection I would want a pump action 12 gauge.

  Not my personal choice or recommendation, but I’ve had this conversation enough to know it is hard to change minds.

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• Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  5.56 or 223 is a solid coyote or groundhog round and has been popular for 30+ years now. With the properly set up AR15, they can reach out 500m no problem

  Either 5.56 or 12GA are great home defense rounds.

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  • setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I completely spaced on the use against coyotes. AR-15s seem about ideal for that.

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    • Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Hogs is another common critter.

      With the right hollow point and good shot placement, I don’t see it having a problem taking down a white tail

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      • Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’ve always hunted his with a 30-30 because hogs are pretty agressive and will attack.

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      • setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yep I know about hogs (some other comment somewhere I mentioned them) and the biggest stopping of 5.56 for hunting is usually a legal ban on them rather than practical with the right ammo. Honestly might be for the best because otherwise some Bubba with non-hollowpoint ammo and a crooked scope would be out there maiming deer.

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