Totally depends on who’s painting the collage. Some are quite well done.
One’s best bet though, is to attend college and not chance bad painting.
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ArchsageRamases@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Collage is a scam 100%
slothrop@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
theloneyank@slrpnk.net 1 hour ago
it is but learning is not.
troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Pfft, learning! What maroons
Signtist@bookwyr.me 2 hours ago
The cost is a scam, and the current work environment is a scam, so if you think of college as only being useful as a way to pay money for a better job, then sure, it’s a scam, but it’s more than that. It’s about learning for the sake of learning, and taking your first real steps into adulthood with a group of people doing the same.
It sucks that boomers talked about it like it’s some sort of “get rich quick” scheme that doesn’t even work, but even during their own halcyon days of higher education, the job opportunities were only the secondary benefit next to college’s actual purpose of being a useful extra step between childhood and functional adulthood.
wjrii@lemmy.world 59 minutes ago
The DeBeers-ish sentimental marketing is also a bit of a scam, which ends up working nicely with the cost being a scam. I am very happy with my 25 year old English Lit degree; it was was what I was able to get through with where I was discipline-wise, and I did learn all those critical thinking and life skills, and it even opened adequate doors, career-wise. I reckon my grades were inflated somewhat by my professors’ sheer relief that I was engaging with the material and, for all their flaws, my papers were obviously my own work. Still, I think my memories would be very different if I had graduated with $180k of student loan debt from a bucolic college somewhere in the New England hills instead of a $2k balance on a Discover Card, incurred over 4.25 years of nonsense at local state U.
I’m all for college, and not just STEM and business. Frankly some our current generation of tech leaders could use to have taken a few more philosophy classes (except for Peter Thiel… oh my) or at least smoked a few more bowls with the liberal arts kids. Still, people need to be clear-eyed about what a degree will and won’t do, and they need to understand that you absolutely can and should put a price-tag on the experiences.
Signtist@bookwyr.me 53 minutes ago
For sure. The price is completely egregious, and unfortunately likely outweighed the experience of college itself long ago, but it’s still important for people to understand that college isn’t just a degree at the end, it’s primarily the experiences found in the middle, which are valuable regardless of whether or not the degree is used.
Krono@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
You’re mostly right about the benefits of college, but this idea of a transition into functional adulthood is outdated. It reflects a bygone era of the job market.
After graduating college and being unable to find a job, I am much less functional and significantly less adult.
Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 hour ago
Having a job may be functional on a practical level, but in today’s job market, employability is no longer a reflection of who you are as a person, and shouldn’t be used to determine whether or not you’re an “adult.” By “functional adulthood” I meant things like the ability to socialize, and the ability to think rationally about complex problems like politics and religion instead of just blindly following whatever your parents said was right. People don’t always learn those skills, but there’s a reason that republicans often think of college as “indoctrination,” because their kids keep coming back with different beliefs than the ones they left with.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Thank you! Yes, college was important for me to do that sort of thing. I think another part of the problem is that some people see college as entirely about career aspects and don’t engage with it as a holistic experience. Like yeah part of college was the classes, and those were important, they challenged me to learn how to think, how to defend my statements, how to write well, how to do my career, and more. But college was also hanging out chatting with other people interested in knowledge, other people of varied backgrounds and experiences, and just other young people who were interested in living like young people in a relatively low structure environment.
theloneyank@slrpnk.net 54 minutes ago
I heard in europe they don’t have prom. They got trains too.