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• Zink@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah, when I take an inventory of the businesses I frequent and follow this train of thought, it ultimately boils down into the line “No ethical consumption under capitalism” I’ve read before.

  If it’s a company we’ve heard of, it inevitably has an entire collection of rich psychopaths running and owning it. Local small businesses can be better, or they can be run by hateful bigots and/or small-time psychopaths that charge twice as much.

  I just try to find the reasonable balance between trying to reduce harm and not support the worst of the worst, while also participating in society.

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• bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If you can’t buy a broom without using amazon, youre gonna have a hard time with life in general.

  Also in my comment I stated I don’t use Walmart. Rarely ever go to target.

  And yes. All consuming is unethical, a slave made the phone or computer you are using this moment. However, that doesn’t mean we need to use amazon and keep directly enriching billionaire scum. How is that so hard ? Are people lazier or dumber than they used to be now in that they can’t search for 2 seconds to find a broom? How about a damn garage sale ???

  Used is far better than new in a massive amount of cases. Americans are addicted to shiny new plastic because they’re brainwashed idiots that think they need new everything.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    All consuming is unethical

    Okay, but my floor is sticky. What Do?

    Used is far better than new in a massive amount of cases.

    Who is selling used mops? What kind of business sustains itself on that kind of traffic?

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    • 7101334@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Who is selling used mops? What kind of business sustains itself on that kind of traffic?

      Tons of people on eBay who probably steal them from the corporations or resell from the Chinese companies which manufacture them in the first place, which is way more ethical than buying them from American oligarch-owned resellers.

      If I search “mop and bucket set” on Amazon, most results are in the $35 - $45 range, some as high as $60. Comparable mops on eBay (it seems 100% identical except it has a metal ring instead of a red plastic triangle over the mop) are $20 - $35. Then that exact same mop is $17.12 on Aliexpress (with free shipping, from a local warehouse). That’s not “used”, to be fair, but it’s a way smarter way of shopping and doesn’t support Amazon.

      Another example is that H2O2 was $8.50 on Amazon at one point, yet like $1 or $2 each at my local Walgreens. Yes, same volume bottle. That was a while ago though, when I was still using Amazon, so I can’t say that’s still the case.

      Or if you very literally want “used” for some reason, I did find one guy on Craigslist selling mop and bucket sets for $15 lol. Probably even more people on Facebook Marketplace, including some who might even be giving it away for free.

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      • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Unfortunately fb marketplace has a stranglehold on the used market, but damn have I got deals there.

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    • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah, ive read grapes of wrath! Excellent book.

      Your example of a mop is silly though. Like, you can totally get a used mop at a garage sale. Or just dont use amazon for it at least if you must have a new one.

      Also, have you not heard of eBay?? Yes, its full of shitty China amazon resellers too, but there’s real items there as well as tons of other sites people sell on.

      My main point is, we are addicted and brainwashed to new shit we absolutely don’t need. If people thought about reducing and reusing for 1 second we could topple corporations. But no. Must have new. More oil to make more plastic shit to go to landfills. Throw out the TV when it breaks because nothing is repairable now etc get a new phone yearly etc.

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• mangobanana@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Don’t you know you’re supposed to make your own rope from cotton that you’ve grown, and make your own mop with wood that you harvested from your backyard?

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• chilicheeselies@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The grocery store. A 99cent store. Local hardware store.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    A 99cent store.

    The Ethical Dollar Tree

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• 7101334@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Point me to the place to buy a fucking mop that doesn’t involve some asshole on the internet heckling me over it.

  Aliexpress.

  I have only used Amazon once in the last 2 years (it was a very specific tool that was sold literally nowhere else, even eBay, and was only like $20), Walmart a handful of times, and Target only for cat sand.

  If you can’t eliminate the harm you contribute to (which, fair, none of us can in America), you are responsible for minimizing it. Triage. Gotta choose between 3 shit companies? Evaluate which one is the least-shit and go that route.

  And that varies for everyone. The people who have a Walmart as their only source of fresh groceries within a 30 mile radius are going to need to shop at Walmart more often than I do, and that’s fine.

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  • mangobanana@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You don’t think aliexpress is ran by billionaires?

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    • 7101334@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Quote where I said or implied that.

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      • mangobanana@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Well you were saying to use AliExpress instead of Amazon in order not to feed the billionaires basically is what I inferred from your comment.

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