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“It’s socialism or barbarism!”. It’s because there hasn’t been any other convincing arguments otherwise. If you give the capitalists an inch, they’ll eventually take it all. You cannot allow capital to accumulate to the degree that it wields real political power.

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Gorilladrums@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Socialism hasn’t exactly worked out either. Replacing a flawed system like capitalism with something even worse is not a solution

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- reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Rich cant exploit socialism as easily, therefore they demonize it.
  
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- Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  “Socialism hasn’t worked out either” what exactly do you mean? Public schools have largely been more successful than not. Socialized medicine has been more successful than privatized insurance.
  
  The blanket statement is simply a statement so sweeping it can only be incorrect. Because there are successful socialized portions of societies.
  
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  - Gorilladrums@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    But that’s not what socialism is. Socialism is when the “public” (read: government) controls all of societies land, resources, and means of production and distributes them from ability to need. Socialism is a specific economic system where the entire economy is centrally planned.
    
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    Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    You’re mixing like 3 definitions of socialism:
    
    as a state policy of central planning
    
    as a set of economic reforms
    
    modeled as a command economy (command economies pre date capitalism by a large margin)
    
    Socialism encompasses a much larger group of movements and ideas with lots of differing thought schools largely tasked with improving society in economic ways. Democracy can be argued to be under the umbrella of socialism and socialist thought depending on how things are defined which is why there is such staunch anti democracy sentiments from capitalists.
    
    Like the more developed ideas on socialism are where the benefits of capitalism are realized but the costs are offset or synthetic.
    
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- Regdok@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  squak socialism bad squak
  
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  - Gorilladrums@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    It is. You can smack your head against a wall, but reality won’t change.
    
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    Regdok@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Aight. I’ll keep smacking my head against my free universal healthcare and robust safety nets (Norway).
    
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