Strawman fallacy.
You sound like a twitter lawyer. “STRAWMAN!” - “WHATABOUTISM!”.
You’re arguing against something I didn’t say.
You never said it, however, you implied that SteamDRM is acceptable while Denuvo is fine. Which, in my book, is a contradiction if you say you’re against DRM in particular.
You’re the one here defending Denuvo and trying to minimise other people’s opinions on it.
I’m not defending it, I’m just wondering why Denuvo leads people to not buying games but being all fine with using SteamDRM (they’re both DRM after all) or highly invasive anti-cheat. It just makes no sense to me.
I won’t be replying anymore as you’re clearly not here in good faith.
That’s fine, have a nice day!
Katana314@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I think it’s valid to point to exceptionalism in the reasoning.
Excuse racism as an anlalogy here; butiIf a homeowner complains “That young man has been loitering around that corner store all day! He’s up to no good!” then a good cop (yes, I know) should rightfully point out “So, that young man is black. To be clear, your issue is with loitering, so you also have an issue with that white boy that’s loitering around another corner store, right?” If the homeowner’s response is “I didn’t say that!!” then it suddenly becomes telling as to why they have a favorable view of one circumstance and not another, even if they’re not verbally stating “I don’t like black kids!”.
You said they’re both “bad”, but by lack of mention, it sounds like you’re not boycotting Steam’s, and if I had to guess, it’s due to effectiveness; so long as it can be circumvented, you don’t especially care, right? For the purposes of the argument, circumvention and performance are two very distinct concerns. If it can be shown that Steam DRM also affects performance, what would be your opinion then?
MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 22 hours ago
This is the only true thing you said. Everything else is your assumptions that you argue against as a strawman.
The arguments I’ve made here stand on their own and I’m not going to jump through hoops to try to pass your manipulative and extremely transparent purity test.
Katana314@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
That was also the only factual assertion I made. I posited a guess afterwards, and drew potential conclusions afterwards.
You’re free to analyze my assumptions, which I label as assumptions, as incorrect, and give a further explanation of why one thing is true and another is not. But if you’re entering an argument refusing to make statements, OR supporting/negating suggested statements, that’s pretty much the definition of arguing in bad faith. Your arguments don’t “stand on their own” if you’re not open to discussion of their potential flaws.
If you don’t want to comment, just keep your hand off the Post button. No one hates you for that.
MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
Yes, uncharitable guesses that were unwarranted and amounted to a strawman.
I’ll spell it out real simple for you since you seem to need that…
I never said I was boycotting either Denuvo or Steam. You’re trying to imply here that I have a contradiction in my argument but I don’t. The only thing I said was they’re both bad.
Trying to reinforce your own strawman with more assumptions in a transparent attempt to make me seem a hypocrite.
This wasn’t mentioned in my comment thread at all until you brought it up and even then it’s only in the context of your strawman.
As I said before numerous times, I think Steam DRM is bad. Whether or not it affects performance wouldn’t change my opinion. This isn’t the gotcha you seem to think it is.
Here, educate yourself about informal fallacies.
Make me.