Comment on Pragmata surpasses 1m copies sold in just two days

• realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m not in favor of it, however, denuvo doesn’t impact my gaming experience in the slightest. It’s like a crash tracker running in the background, monitoring if shit goes wrong and if it does, gives me a prompt to ask me to report it. It doesn’t have any special privileges (unlike something like vanguard, for example), it doesn’t start with my PC but starts and stops with the game and it has no impact on performance (lots of videos about it on youtube).

  I get that people don’t like the thought of “I’m not fully owning my game” which is reasonable, but in that case, your reason for not playing pargmata shouldn’t be denuvo, but steam itself.

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  • MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I get that people don’t like the thought of “I’m not fully owning my game” which is reasonable, but in that case, your reason for not playing pargmata shouldn’t be denuvo, but steam itself.

    This is whataboutism. They’re both DRM, they’re both bad. I should point out though that it is up to the developer/publisher whether they use Steam DRM. There are games on Steam that you can play the game without Steam (Cyberpunk 2077 for example).

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    • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This is whataboutism

      It’s not. If “That game has denuvo so I won’t buy it because I hate DRM” if a stance you have, you should also not buy it because of Steam’s DRM. Otherwise you’re not true to your own word and therefore unbelievable.

      IMO DRM is the far more important issue in gaming.

      Anti-Cheat is on kernel level with far more elevated rights. You don’t know what vanguard or EAC are doing on your system at any given time because these applications literally have more rights than you. They also require full compatibility on the OS, which is why league doesn’t work on linux since the introduction of vanguard.

      On the other hand, denuvo is running as a userspace process that, at worst, wastes a handful of CPU cycles and costs publishers a ton of money.

      Dunno, I got WAY more gripes with anti-cheat than denuvo.

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      • MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It’s not. If “That game has denuvo so I won’t buy it because I hate DRM” if a stance you have, you should also not buy it because of Steam’s DRM. Otherwise you’re not true to your own word and therefore unbelievable.

        Strawman fallacy. You’re arguing against something I didn’t say. I did in fact say “They’re both DRM, they’re both bad.”.

        As surprising as it may be for you, it’s possible to be against both anti-cheat and DRM, which I am. You’re the one here defending Denuvo and trying to minimise other people’s opinions on it.

        I won’t be replying anymore as you’re clearly not here in good faith.

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