Piefed.social has 29 comments under this thread, 21 of those comments are about Denuvo with over half of them being a variation of the “Denuvo bad”. I get it, I don’t like Denuvo either, but do we really need a “This game has Denuvo so I’m not going to buy it” comment whenever a game with Denuvo is in the news. At this point it’s become another circlejerk. I thought we’re here because we love gaming but it feels like some people are just looking for an excuse to complain.
I can already see this not being well received (considering how popular hating on Denuvo is) so I’m going to save everyone some trouble. I don’t care about your need to defend your circlejerk in front of me. I know where I stand on Denuvo and to me that topic is a dead horse, I’m not going to beat it so I’m not going to respond. I might respond if the comment is about how it impacts the community here, but my stance on that is very simple. We’re intelligent people here, we know how to check whether a game has Denuvo or not, lettings others to the game has Denuvo is not some PSA and calling people the problem for buying a game with Denuvo hurts the community more than it helps.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes. As with all social injustice and corruption, we are ethically obligated to draw attention to it every time. Allowing corporate theft against consumers to be quietly accepted because you are more annoyed by the backlash than the theft makes you an accomplice.
Don’t be an accomplice.
Katana314@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I refuse to buy into the lie that EVERY minor inconvenience is an assault on social justice. That kind of absolutism is designed to waste social energy in a world where far more visible and important harms are frequent. Ending the feeding of gambling addictions, addressing memory hoarding, and encouraging fresh IPs are all to me far more important issues.
You need to accept there’s a large population of people in this community that have not, and will not, be convinced by the Denuvo arguments. I even tried to engage others on the subject to dissect their views and potentially further the discussion, and all it got was multiple paragraphs about what they were NOT going to say, and refused to talk about. The debate is over, and not by my choice. It is literally just annoying now.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There is one thing you are right about. If you think that corporations should be allowed the ability to deprive their customers of their purchases, then you are complicit and we have nothing else to discuss.
Goodeye8@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
But we haven’t even started yet. Why aren’t you expanding your maximalist position to oppose capitalism? After all you’re the one who said you’re obligated to draw attention to all social injustice and corruption every time. Is capitalism not unjust? Is it not corrupt? You’d think someone who is so absolute in their ethics, to the point of accusing their otherwise allies of being an accomplice or complicit for not being 100% in opposition to the injustice, they’d have no problem taking a similar stand against capitalism. Surely someone like that, who believes they’re obligated to draw attention to the injustice every single time, would let their coworkers know with every single paycheck that some of their wage is being stolen. So why did you ignore my comment the first time around?
My guess is that because you understand how weird it would be if you constantly told your coworkers they’re getting ripped off by the system. Not just weird, but I’m pretty sure your coworkers would find it pretty annoying even if they agreed on principle. But for whatever reason you think such behavior is not only acceptable online but anyone not doing that is essentially the enemy. Somehow that’s not weird? That’s not annoying everyone else? I personally don’t think so. Just like it would be weird and annoying IRL it’s weird and annoying online. And for clarification, calling Denuvo bad isn’t weird, constantly going around and calling it bad is weird. There’s a time and a place for that discussion but that time and place isn’t under every thread of a game that has Denuvo.
And before you duck again from this conversation I’ll remind you that you’re the on who started this. I preemptively said I don’t care about your defense of this little circejerk you’re doing and you still felt you’re important enough to let me know how I’m an accomplice to a supposed corporate theft. So for your own sake don’t be a bitch and stand your ground. Otherwise whatever credibility you have left goes straight out the window because you’re all bark and no bite. Cmon, explain why you’d take such an absolutist stand against Denuvo but not do the same thing when it comes to opposing capitalism. Why aren’t you constantly annoying your coworkers about how their wage is being stolen?
Goodeye8@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I’m sure your coworkers really appreciate you telling them on every single payday that the capital owners are stealing their money. You wouldn’t want to be an accomplice to capitalism now would you.