orenj@leminal.space 4 days ago
i am reminded of a factoid i learned like 20 years ago. there is an amount of blood and pus the FDA says is okay to exist in one of these things and its not zero.
orenj@leminal.space 4 days ago
i am reminded of a factoid i learned like 20 years ago. there is an amount of blood and pus the FDA says is okay to exist in one of these things and its not zero.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Thats one of those “factoids” that came from PETA during one of their milk = rape campaigns.
Milk from injured teats or sick cows is dumped.
nooch@lemmy.vg 3 days ago
Also milk = rape is totally factual (though a terrible way to try to reach the public)
So if you believe that non-human animals can be SA’d the dairy industry most likely covers that definition.
You can look this stuff up yourself in industry sources, it’s just industry practice including free-range cows.
Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
That isn’t true, of you regularly milk a cow there is no reason to impregnate it again. The cow will continue producing milk as long as it’s regularly milked . It’s the same as human woman, that’s how you end up with some mothers breastfeeding for a creepily long time. Our own species behaves in the same exact way, why does this continue to get repeated.
nooch@lemmy.vg 3 days ago
Yes the dairy cycle is more complex I simplified it because I wanted to focus the impregnation part.
Milk production decreases greatly after the first 9-12 months. To make it profitable they do get impregnated repeatedly. The life of a dairy cow typically goes like this:
The cycle is then repeated. Since pregnancy and milk production is taxing on the body and milk production declines, most cows get slaughtered at 5 years old with an average of 2.5 pregancies (average lifespan is 20 years). This also makes sense because to maintain the herd you need to keep the number of females stable, which have a 50% chance of being born (male claves get slaughtered ofc).
Maybe some homesteads or subsistence farms keep milking them for years after one pregnancy, but otherwise even for free range grass fed whatever, if they sell milk to make a profit this is how it goes.
You can get all this info from industry sources.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 3 days ago
*Commercial milk, local farms with humane practices still exist and the milk tends to taste like real milk too, not the sour pus stuff most Americans are familiar with.
nooch@lemmy.vg 3 days ago
These practices are not particular to factory farms. Some farms do keep bulls but this is costly and impractical on the long run for genetic diversity reasons, so most non-factory farms also buy sperm and do the artificial insemination.
Also “local” as an adjective doesn’t mean much in terms of practices. All farms are local to somewhere. In a 50km radius of where I live there have been investigations in at least 10 farms that found severe animal abuse and neglect in the last 5 years. Those were all local farms that got to put a nice local stamp in their products.
nooch@lemmy.vg 3 days ago
This is not a “factoid” but a fact you can look up yourself from many non-animal rights sources (even if there are many reliable ones).
Look up “somatic cell count” on Wikipedia. Food safety regulations around the world define a number of somatic cells (which is what pus is made of). Same for blood cells.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 days ago
If you bothered to look up what a Sematic cell was, You wouldnt be sitting here posting ignorance.
You are literally made up of somatic cells. They make your organs, your skin, your bones, your blood, everything.
nooch@lemmy.vg 3 days ago
I’m not saying the somatic cells in commercial milk are harmful, that’s precisely why somatic cell counts need to exist.
Your response comment seemed to suggest that the claim that the FDA has a somatic and blood cell count is “PETA propaganda”, which it is not. I didn’t post “PETA ignorance”, just facts you can look up from objective sources.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic_cell_count