All good points but you also forgot to mention another key factor. This is more or less the rainiest region in the country. It’s extremely wet and most people don’t like that.
Comment on why does almost nobody live here?
BananaTrifleViolin@piefed.world 20 hours ago
A few reasons. One is there isn’t much flat land; most of it is hilly and even mountainous and covered in thick forests. The flat areas are occupied with farms and towns but the space is small and not enough for big cities to grow. The hills and mountains are heavily forested and there has never been a big enough population to need to encroach on them. It’s also not great for building and farming, unless grazing animals.
The other big reason is there are no natural deep sea ports in that region. It’s either marshy or the estuary of the river Colombia. Small fishing towns would be fine, but not big industrial ports that drive city growth (or did in the past). Meanwhile, Portland sits further back up the river with plenty of flat land and access to the water, so makes a natural port. And Seattle sits on the bay further north and is coastal, and a good port.
The dynamic got set up of big cities further back, and those areas never really grew. Once the land became part of state forests, then that restricts growth even more.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 19 hours ago
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
It really is shitty out there most of the year. Even in summer it can be 95 degrees in the valley and raining on the coast. Most of the people living out on the coast are natives, retirees, and Trump supporters as there isnt much work outside of casinos, gas station/fast food, and logging.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 17 hours ago
Yeah people love to complain about rain in Seattle but some parts of the coast here get almost double the amount of rain.
Leather@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Yes. The temperate rainforest region of Pacific Northwest is a horror show. 300+ days of rain. And the others are just cloudy. You can’t swim in the ocean. It’s constantly below 80. Don’t move here. It’s horrible.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
So… no high speed fiber access then?
slazer2au@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
You can’t swim in the ocean. It’s constantly below 80.
Uhhh all ocean water is below 80 degrees otherwise humans will near boil when going near it.
Leather@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Yep. The ocean is both too cold and near boiling. The PNW is awful!
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
I think they were measuring it in burger units.
redknight942@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
cant swim in the ocean
Windsurfers rejoice!
Leather@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Nope too dangerous for that too. Definitely don’t move to this hellscape.
devolution@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Mostly because no one wants to deal with twinkling vampires.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 20 hours ago
I just realized why it’s called Portland.
On my defense, I’ve never seen a map of it before.
whatalute@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Nope, the name was decided with coin flip. Lol Could ended up as Boston.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_Penny
porcoesphino@mander.xyz 16 hours ago
Going down a Wikipedia rabbit hole:
I failed at finding how the Isle of Portland got its name but saw this:
etymologyworld.com/item/portland
Its the first time I’ve seen the site though and that page feels a bit AI generated
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 15 hours ago
That’s a little disappointing.
Inland port -> Portland seemed nice and tidy
_NetNomad@fedia.io 18 hours ago
i thought you were kidding until i saw the wikipedia link. that's fascinating, and very cool that they still have the penny
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 15 hours ago
But why was Portland one of the options?
whatalute@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
One of the founders (Francis Pettygrove) was originally from Portland Maine, and the other was from Boston. They both wanted to name the new city after their hometown.
It’s entirely possible that part of Pettygrove why wanted to name it after his hometown is because he thought it would be fitting for river port city. But idk if he ever stated anything to that effect.