Comment on A shrubbery!

• BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Now you’re asking the questions they don’t want you to ask

  source
• flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Vegetarians aren’t real because they still support mass murder of animals! (partly /s)

  source

  • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Just curious, how are they doing that?

    source

    • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Eating eggs -> financially supporting a system where male chicks get either immediately killed after birth or more rarely are later killed for their meat. Also it is supporting a system where chickens are bred to produce as many eggs as fast as possible, which means a life of torture to them

      Drinking milk -> financially supporting a system where cows are continuously impregnated against their will and where their offspring is immediately taken from them and killed for their meat (I think this is done yearly). Also it is supporting a system where cows are bred to produce as much milk as fast as possible, which means a life of torture to them

      There are certainly many more atrocities happening, but I’m trying not to think too often of that stuff

      source

      • Tonava@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Also just supporting bad agriculture in general, since pesticides kill crazy amounts of stuff, deforestation, giant monoculture fields suffocating native wildlife, producing the fertilizers unethically, transporting stuff half across the world needlessly… if you do anything the “optimize profits” -way things get shitty. All of these things apply to plant based diets as well, but vegans often focus on the whole chain of ethical and ecological problems whereas vegetarians tend to focus more to the personal level of things. So even what plant products they buy and consume might have some big differences in ecological impact and ethical concerns

        source

        • -> View More Comments
    • sukhmel@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I would guess by eating diary, eggs, leather, etc. I heard this take just yesterday, and I can see a point, because most animal industries don’t treat animals well even when it’s not about killing the animal

      source

      • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        leather is mainly a waste product, no one actually kills animals for their skins (except animals that are valuable to humans only for their skin but those are the exception), so idk if i would count the use of leather :shrug:

        source