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Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It broke feudalism, too, and kickstarted the renaissance.

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• jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How so? Didn’t Luther do that a couple hundred years later?

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  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    At the time of the plague, the Catholic church dominated every state politically; they were the undisputed masters of Europe.

    After the plague, they never recovered the same amount of control again, the start of a long decline that continues to this day. The plague revealed how truly ineffectual and predatory the church was, even to the most ignorant.

    Recommend the books The Black Death and The Dancing Plague

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    • hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Which black death book? There are many and I’d like to learn.

      I’m assuming dancing plague is John Waller?

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      • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My memory fails me, here’s what I have found on my bookshelf from the last few years

        The Great Mortality: An Intimate History of the Black Death, the Most Devastating Plague of All Time by Kelly

        The Dancing Plague: The Strange, True Story of an Extraordinary Illness by Waller

        The Black Death 1346-1353: The Complete History by Benedictow

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    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So what youre saying is it was gods will for the church to decline and it was done via the plague which must have come from God if everything is part of God’s plan, which means God wanted fewer followers and eventually have none?

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      • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        PRECISELY

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    • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      that continues to this day.

      The US disagrees as do some theocratic states like Iran (nit-pick but i said catholic all you want, they all look the same to me).

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      • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        THE GOOD NEWS The last time I looked, they’re all shrinking in membership.

        Also, remember, they have always lied about their predominance, and they always will. Abrahamics have no relationship with the truth, don’t ever listen to them and their claims, believe nothing without solid evidence from another source.

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      • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Do not mistake the bullshit narrative of the oligarchs with actual human beings. Religion is dying everywhere amongst actual human beings.

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