Comment on Entrainment Entretainment
Saapas@piefed.zip 15 hours agoI’ve always wondered how it fucks people up that bad when it’s just one hour’s change. I had a bit shorter sleep (by around that one hour) yesterday and then it was back on track
I will answer in good faith. People respond to different stimulus differently. It is as simple as that.
Some people die from eating small traces of peanuts, some have no problem eating a whole tub of peanut butter in one sitting.
Some people are okay losing an hour or two of sleep. Some will have their bodies react horribly to it.
I wonder why. I get that people have rhythms but you’d think the rhythm would be off by that one hour, not totally messed up, you know
I’m sure there’s numerous potential reasons for it. Some may be relying on the consistency of their sleep schedule more than others, have responsibilities that reduce how much they can reasonably fit in their schedule, may not care about the quantity or quality of sleep they get, have a pre-existing sleep debt, have health issues that compound with sleep changes, alternative sleep schedules, genetic predispositions, or literally anything else related to how sleep, physical health, mental health, and bodily systems function.
If you think of how one thing being shifted can set other things way more off balance then it makes sense. I’m not an expert in any of this but it’s definitely a complicated topic at the very least.
I would refer back to my peanut butter comment. Or bee stings. Or celery.
Some people are near-sighted. Some have asthma. ADHD. Some have 12 toes. Or two penises.
People are genetically diverse. They just are.
But we know what is behind peanut butter, bee or celery allergies, we know what nearsightedness is etc. I’m just wondering what causes it. I wonder if there’s a scientific reason found for it
if you sleep at the same time consistently, changing that is a big change for your body. It takes time to adjust a strong routine, and it takes a physical toll to do so.
We have lots of evidence of it causing all kinds of problems: increased numbers of heart attacks, car accidents, and more. It very much is a detriment to society.
I don’t disagree, but it’s a shame the drudgery of winter and the implications of remaining in either time frame (seasonal affective disorder, etc) are much harder to measure.
Its hard to have a rational debate about when it’s such an emotive thing.
I work a regular job so I have a consistent rhythm. But I have never had issues adjusting, it’s only an hour after all. That’s what throws me off, wouldn’t you be “off” by an hour and not more than that?
Saapas, I can see that you were trying to relate your own experiences to the discussion and even add to the discussion by asking a question. I’m sorry that nobody seems to understand what you’re trying to do. Many here are autists and many more are self-involved. I, in fact, am both and very pleased with myself for feeling empathy and compassion in this moment.
Back to your very valid question: Sleep scientists have long tracked sleeping cycles. Not all sleep is equal. Sleeping for a certain amount of time resets certain chemical imbalances in the brain. Many people can take a twenty-minute nap at midday, for example, and feel clear-headed afterwards. However, if they take an hour nap, they may feel lethargic. But then maybe that same person could take a two-hour nap instead, and feel great.
Your mileage may vary, but my point is that sleep cycles are a real thing. If your body is used to going to sleep at a certain time, that’s the time it expects sleep. It’s based on your body’s own internal clock. Daylight Savings Time messes with that clock. Your body doesn’t care that your phone jumped ahead an hour.
Not everyone will have a difficult time adjusting, but it’s not uncommon to feel restless for a couple of weeks until the body catches up to the new sleep pattern.
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=circadian+rhythm+daylight+savings
Maybe you don’t, but other people do. “I don’t have that problem” isn’t an excuse to not do anything about it.
Hold your horses, who said anything about doing or not doing something? I’m just confused about why it throws some people off so much, that’s it
Apepollo11@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
It messes with PM people more than AM people.
If you’re tired in the evenings and wide awake in the morning, then going to bed slightly earlier and getting up earlier is easy.
If you’re alert in the evenings and tired in the mornings, going to bed early is counter-productive, you just lie there awake getting less tired. Similarly getting up earlier is even harder than normal.
If you’re an AM person, then you’ve drawn the lucky straw - the world is built for people like you. But there’s lots of PM people who struggle daily, fighting against their body clocks just to show up to school/work on time.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
This is actually a really good explanation. As a PM person who hates summer time, I sometimes try to explain this and never really manage. Yours is spot on.
Saapas@piefed.zip 13 hours ago
What’s PM people and AM people?
Apepollo11@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
AM = morning PM = afternoon/evening/night
Like 7AM or 7PM
AM people are most awake and productive during the morning hours, and get more tired as the day goes on.
PM people are tired in the morning and more alert later in the day/night.
Saapas@piefed.zip 12 hours ago
Ah, gotcha. We don’t use that am pm thing so didn’t remember it. I’m a night person but work a job that starts early. Just another adjustmen, when you have to be at work there’s really no other options.