Comment on "Science isn't political!"

• Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Convincing people is war. Exerting power is politics.

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• leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Convincing people your interpretation of reality exists is literally all that politics is.

  What? No. No, no, you naive fool… many politicians, if not most, don’t believe most of what they’re selling, and don’t give a flying fuck about it.

  They’ll sell whatever line the party they’re working for wants them to sell, and they’d just as happily sell the opposition party’s line if it paid better and they could switch without being called a turncoat.

  Also, it’s not about convincing people about specific beliefs; most people are mostly already convinced of their worldviews and if they change them it won’t be because of some politician. It’s about convincing them, despite all evidence to the contrary, that the politician shares those beliefs, and will impose them on people who don’t if they vote for them.

  despite being correct, science is also an interpretation of reality.

  Again, no. Science (except for mathematics, but that’s it’s own thing) doesn’t and shouldn’t ever claim to be correct.

  It’s the most accurate approximation we have so far of how nature works, but it’s constantly trying to achieve better approximations, and will happily throw away the old ones when it finds a better one.

  It also should always make very clear that it’s an approximation or a description, not an interpretation. Science should always be objective, never subjective, and interpretations are by definition subjective.

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• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think we need politics to go beyond one reality, and embrace a subjective multiverse where people can perceive what they want to perceive.

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  • Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If only the idiots could just piss off to their own multiverse of idiocy and leave the rest of us alone

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    • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I would be happy if I didn’t have to share a universe with realists, but the thing about realists is, they’re not happy to let that happen. They think there’s only one universe. They psychologically abuse our kind to try to get us back to their reality.

      I have a friend named Sonic who’s an introject. He appeared in someone else’s head one day, having been assembled from thoughts about video games and comic books. He tried to get help from a psychologist with his mental health. Instead of helping him, she told him he doesn’t exist and tried to erase him. She messed him up so bad, he tried to commit suicide, tried to destroy the body he lives in and everyone else who lives in it, just to prove he could have an affect on the world, that he exists.

      He’s doing a lot better now that he’s surrounded by antirealists and he isn’t seeing that psychologist anymore.

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      • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Chris Weston Chadler, is that you?

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    • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s called, Texas, we should let them secede.

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  • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Cool cool cool so the climate is pretty fucked and now the way people have lived for millennia will cease to be possible. But at least we were open minded about delusion.

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