Comment on Anon enjoys videogame music

Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Nefara@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Was the last time you listened to game music when it was all chip and midi? There’s some beautiful and moving music in games.

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  • Aqarius@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hell, even with the chip tunes alone, it’s amazing what people managed to squeeze out of a sine, a saw, and a square channel. Bloody Tears comes to mind. Or Willy’s theme from Megaman 2.

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    • Zoomboingding@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And the modern scene is still going strong

      youtu.be/390m2LaUUIg

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  • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s excellent for the setting it was made for, but is lacking compared to the collected discography of generations of musicians tuned to at-home listening.

    I listen to opera at the opera. I listen to symphonies at the symphony, or at home if I’m particularly nostalgic. I listen to game music when I’m playing games. Each has an environment crafted around it to maximize enjoyment. I can’t even listen to edm without dimming the lights.

    Listening to a game soundtrack made to evoke specific emotions at specific times? It feels like the point was wholly missed and vast horizons entirely ignored.

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    • Nefara@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is a very narrow and limited way of seeing music. Music can be created for a purpose and a setting but once it’s out there it has no boundaries beyond what you impose upon it. Somewhere Over the Rainbow was written for the Wizard of Oz but it’s not like the only way to enjoy it is in a movie theatre. Certainly, music can be more or less appropriate for certain activities and moods, listening to EDM to fall asleep might be self defeating. However, music made for games can evoke all sorts of mental states and people are free to find appropriate settings and uses outside of them to enjoy it.

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      • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        In the same way that a kid can watch a baseball game and notice none of the nearly superhuman athleticism playing out, many people simply can’t notice the difference between a bespoke listening experience and one tuned for a specific setting. And that doesn’t make them evil or stupid, and I’d never argue that. But it does place them firmly beneath vermin. People are allowed to feel any which way they like, even if it’s objectively WRONG.

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    • Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Please listen to the endless space 2 ost (without playing the game). Imo it is even better outside of the game, because I can fully kick back and listen, instead of micromanaging a galaxy-spanning empire at the same time.

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      • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I jumped though it and it’s overwhelmingly ambient music. Which isn’t bad but I rarely play ambient music. Just not for me

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• kartoffelsaft@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I could sympathize with your point if VGM was still the blips and blops of cheap midi synths like it was in Doom’s hayday. Heck, I still someshat sympathize with the idea that VGM just doesn’t work as well as albums for making a pure listening experience because the game inherently restricts it’s format (though I’d say it depends on the game). But VGM by [current year] has gotten so good I must ask what VGM you have heard. Would you make the same claim for film soundtracks?

  Unsolicited VGM suggestions that I think prove my point

  Expedition 33, Neon White, Ultrakill, Team Fortress 2, Hyper Light Drifter

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  • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I do feel the same way about movie soundtracks. My partner pulled the full interstellar soundtrack into their chill out playlist and I wince a little every time.

    I liked the music in bioshock, shadow of the colossus, kingdom hearts 3, horizon, undertale, etc., quite a lot. But devoting time to listening to it, rather than modern music made for home listening just doesn’t appeal to me. It feels like pulling out a jigsaw when you need a dremel. Like, you can do that, certainly, but there are infinitely better options

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    • Zoomboingding@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So, you’re talking about a dedicated ‘sit down and listen to this album in whole’ kind of experience? I don’t think even most albums are great for this, but yeah video games typically aren’t good for this because of the different moods they go through. I listen to a few straight though though:

      …bandcamp.com/…/wonder-boy-the-dragons-trap

      c418.bandcamp.com/album/wanderstop

      …bandcamp.com/…/diaries-of-a-spaceport-janitor-or…

      …bandcamp.com/…/bastion-original-soundtrack

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      • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I can’t even say that. I listen to singles, for the most part. I haven’t done a full album listen through in like 10 years, and that was mostly a rock opera bender. I’m not opposed to listening to full albums, but I am picky and my musical peas and carrots touching bothers me.

        But my most major issue with video game music is just that it avoids calling attention to itself. “Ignore me” doesn’t feel like it should be a part of music.

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  • gurty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Its almost a cliche to say it at this point, but Clair Obscur’s soundtrack is incredible.

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• imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Counterpoint.

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  • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s a great song, but I can’t see myself choosing to play it outside game night. (I played this one to death during our desert campaign)

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    • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t necessarily disagree with you, as much as I enjoy the song whenever I do pull it up, I can’t honestly claim it’s on my car playlist or party playlist. It’s pretty hard to beat popular music at the end of the day.

      Film music, video game music, and even classical music are all great and impressive in their own right, but when you’re just chilling and vibing, popular music is the way to go. And by popular music I don’t mean pop music, I mean the whole spectrum of contemporary music that people mainly listen to, I guess you could also call it vernacular music.

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      • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s excellent ambiance. I pick and pull from video games aplenty for game nights. Ambient music in a specific style for specific demographics? Yes, directly into my stereo system on Tuesday.

        Unequivocally was I baiting reactions with hyperbole mixed with sincerity in the 4chan community. I can’t argue otherwise, and I don’t blame people for not recognizing a, and this hurts to say, 20 year old meme setup.

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  • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Another counterpoint

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• Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Look, I think gamers should definitely expand their tastes because I know a few who almost exclusively listen to games soundtrack, but that doesn’t mean games soundtracks have no artistic value outside of the game… now, not all of them do, but it’s not all black and white

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