I said eggs not butchering them for meat !!!
Explain yourself.
That’s cruel and requires violence. There are situations that justify cruelty and violence, but given that there is no food scarcity, it is not justified now.
SarahFromOz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
endlesseden@pyfedi.deep-rose.org 1 day ago
not op, but I assume they are vegan. many vegans have the misconception any product from a animal is violence against them. as they cannot consent…
but the truth is, no vegans live on farms… they don’t understand chickens lay unfirtalized eggs regardless.
they also see the breeding programs of chickens as violent as it’s for producing meat/eggs. so by raising chickens you are perpetuating it… but that’s stupid. that’s like seeing a hurt dog by the side of the road and saying “if we help that one we have to help all of them”. baby chicks are often given away not sold…
IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Just to add, a lot of vegans (not all) ride their high-horse on their moral high-ground and judge, if not outright insult/shame non-vegans for their choice to not be vegan. A lot like how many religions shame each other for not believing the ‘right’ thing.
‘A few bad apples spoil the bunch,’ as they say. The most vocal also make the group as a whole, difficult to tolerate.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Feeding chickens and eating eggs is cruel and violent?
I’d love to hear your misguided reasoning.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Individuals must be treated as ends, never as means.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I have cats. Aside from rodent control, they don’t serve any purpose other than being part of the family. If my cats somehow had the ability to lay eggs, and since they are all fixed these are unfertilized eggs with no possibility of bearing offspring. Would it be wrong if me to make an omelette from them?
I might have made it more weird by using my cats.
But if you had a few chickens and provided them food and shelter and took good care of them, like you would any pet, why not use their eggs? They’re going to lay them either way. Is it more moral to throw them away?
jerkface@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
Just for clarity, I don’t accept that it is okay to keep animals as pets. But that isn’t relevant to the current discussion so I didn’t get into that.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
Those chickens didn’t just happen. Their very existence is abuse. Creating an individual with the preformed intent that you prevent it from becoming able to care for itself, that it will be dependent on you for everything for it’s entire life, that is one of the most abusive things you can do to another individual. Fine, rescue your cats or whatever, but that’s not what you’re talking about right now. You’re talking about a captive individual who exists to convert calories for you, like a machine. They wouldn’t lay eggs anyway; they wouldn’t EXIST. Not as an individual, but also not as a genetic line that is cursed to lay far more eggs than its own interests have any reason for it to lay. It lays so many eggs that its body becomes depleted. It is not natural for chickens to lay eggs so often! That is something that we did to them. And it’s yet more abuse!
The abuse in inescapable when you use an individual’s body for your own purposes.
And again, we are talking about fucking eggs. There is no food shortage. So there is no justification for even a little bit of cruelty and violence. Plus, eggs are not good for you in the first place!!