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henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• somehacker@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Absolutely. That’s not what happened though. It’s a birthdate field with no verification. The point is to show how stupid the laws are.

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  • nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Don’t hate systemd for age verification

    Hate systemd for its monolithic, anti-Unix design pattern

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ok. Here’s the thing. I don’t know how linux works. I don’t know what systemd is. All I know is that all around the world we got clowns who know less about linux than I do trying to dictate the entire worldwide internet to cater to their specific geographical location, regardless of where the user is.

      Then I hear systemd is openly trying to bow at the knee before these laws are even in effect.

      And yes, the current system is you as a user inputting your birthday with zero verification.

      But the gov of california has already said that before these laws go into effect they’ll be looking for stricter laws with checks in place. These systems are not in place now. Nor do they even know what they will turn out to be.

      When asked about this, the gov said “We’re working on it.”

      Then systemd comes along, ready to bend all of linux to their whims. So I put two and two together and decided this whole thing is pissing me off.

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      • ozymandias@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Here’s the thing. I don’t know how linux works. I don’t know what systemd is.

        Let me stop you right there

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    • imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Systemd isn’t monolithic, it’s a pluggable framework with a shit load of components

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      • greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        ok so tell me why I’m waiting for networking to come up before I’m allowed to interact with my computer

        Also, its monolithic as heck, its a giant squid into my networking, time management, access control…

        Ontop of that… binary logs ew.

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It replicates a lot of unix tooling poorly, binds the to the Systemd framework and only runs on Linux. So, still a monolith.

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• passenger@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s not age verification though. It is exactly what linux should do under the hood to handle this. Just a field.

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  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The issue is that Linux shouldn’t be making any attempts to handle this at all.

    If the various governments are going to try and require this, they can make and maintain their own forks and accept all the responsibility and risk that entails. Or the businesses beholden to the laws can. We have no obligation to make this easier on them, and every reason to make it harder.

    If various Linux (and Linux software/component) maintainers would hold the line, we’d be fine.

    The godawful mess of what would come from all of these different groups scrambling to implement their own solutions would be the fucking point. The most effective way to manage upwards at people who don’t understand or want to listen is to make them feel pain for their shitty decisions.

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• HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  hey my birthday’s 1/1/1970 too

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