I grew up around a lot of juggalos. The music is kind of just a small part of the culture, it really is an entire culture, one based on acceptance of anyone. At least in the 2000s there wasn’t anything else like that. Old heads gatekept punk, they had officially declared punk was dead. Metal was mainstream. Eminem was the only “credible” white rapper because he had street cred from Detroit. If you didn’t feel like you fit in, the jaggalos were there saying you’re welcome here. If you decide to call yourself a jaggalo, then you are, and you’re apart of the family. No integrations about what music you’ve listened to your whole life, when you got into a specific scene, what socioeconomic background you have.

And yeah your second point about rap is 100% true. I saw $uicideboy$ come and go. I remember in like 2014 they were underground, I really fucked with them. They made over 500 songs, had a huge following for the time, and were doing great. Then they signed onto universal to release iwtdino or whatever in like 2018. Never felt more betrayed. I really fucked with yung lean too, but he straight up said he was going to sell out. He was gonna get money. I respect that. $B are just corpo shills now acting like they’re underground while being the most mainstream corpo rappers to exist currently.