Comment on spoopy figs

58008@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• Manticore@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Vegetarian is fine, there is no flesh. Vegetarianism is typically a dietary restriction, rather than a philosophical one.

  Vegan: it depends. Cultivating figs may be seen as expotation, like bee’s honey is; regardless of the insect’s actual life or wellbeing. Each individual person decides what counts as vegan.

  I don’t see the point in this level of specificity, because by eating anything at all you consume fungal spores, tiny mites, microbes etc. Plants are also alive. So there is clearly a line where life is permittably consumed.

  If ‘experiencing suffering’ is that line, insects do not seem capable of it, only responding to basic stimuli. I once watched a one trying to eat its own partially severed head, turning it in its front legs while its mouth parts rapidly twitched. It evidently had no comprehension.

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• mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  No because it’s entirely voluntary on the wasps part

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    But could the wasp ever really choose not to enter the fig?

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It was made for me! This is my fig!

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    • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Maybe “voluntary” isn’t the best word in the “free will” sense, but it clearly requires no coercion

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