I_Jedi@lemmy.today 12 hours ago
Having done it myself, I find several big issues with Japanese -> English translation:
- Honorifics. Referring to someone with -kun or -chan or -sama or -bucho all have very different connotations. Sure, you could just include the honorifics as is but I don’t think that many people unfamiliar with the Japanese language know what -kohai means.
- Culture: Even if the translation is perfect, characters may act in bizarre ways for Westerners. “He knows that guy is evil, so why doesn’t he shoot him?” “Shooting people is very serious shit in Japan.” "Well no one told me!"
- Puns: The big one. To give an English -> Japanese example, how do you translate the joke, “I no that!”? Joke being, the “no” implies that the speaker doesn’t actually know what “that” is, with the “no” taking the place of “know” since they sound the same. “No” in Japan is “iie”, and “know” is “shiru”. They don’t sound alike at all, so how do you do it? Japanese is filled with puns like this, and most of them are completely lost on Westerners.
That said, I do support translators for giving Westerners a variant of the Japanese version. But there’s no mistake that a lot is lost.
creature@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
sorry but, isn’t ‘shooting people’ serious shit everywhere?
untorquer@quokk.au 11 hours ago
They’re translating to American English
I_Jedi@lemmy.today 11 hours ago
Source
Unlike places like the US, people in Japan aren’t really supposed to have guns. So if some dude kicks your door in, threatens you with a knife, and then you shoot him with a gun you’re not supposed to have, you could still go to jail for illegal possession of a gun.
Even the Yakuza are hesitant to use guns.
creature@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Im not from the US, so while im an english speaker it looks like I would not be the target for this kind of cultural localisation - but wouldn’t you go to jail for owning an illegal firearm in the US too?
Senal@programming.dev 10 hours ago
Technically there should be some legal recourse, perhaps jail, whether or not that comes to pass is subject to the same shenanigans law afforcement usually comes with.
But that isn’t what they were saying, they were saying that in japan almost no-one is allowed guns so the likelihood that a person was defending their house with a legal gun is very low.
I agree it wasn’t totally clear.