Comment on The script is mysterious and important.

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• BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Back in the late 90s, I have no idea how you’d pitch that any other way. It’s a miracle that movie got made.

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  • someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I believe even the Wachowski’s said they pitched it terribly. Apparently they focused on bullet time and did a terrible job explaining it. So nothing made sense. Then you realize it was a new age Film Noire, and that wasn’t exactly going to entice funding. Other than Keanu Reeves I don’t think any of the cast was well known, and I’m not even sure how big Keanu Reeves was. Other than Speed it was an odd assortment of movies for him.

    Here’s will smith youtu.be/hm2szuXKgL8&t=70

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    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Keanu was big. Bill & Ted was iconic, after that he was in Point Break, a fairly successful action flick and Speed was massive. Yeah he did some more niche stuff like Johnny Mnemonic, but makes me think he makes more sense for something like the Matrix. Will Smith opted for Wild Wild West over Matrix, which obviously wasn’t a success, but fit with the kinds of movies he was doing at the time.

      Makes sense for a guy to go from Speed to Johnny Mnemonic to the Matrix, and it also makes sense for a guy to go from Bad Boys to Independence Day to Men in Black to Wild Wild West.

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      • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, he was huge. Stallone and Schwarzenegger were bigger names for purely action movies. But, Keanu and Tom Cruise were the action stars who the teenage girls wanted to watch.

        I think it’s all the years of Fresh Prince of Bel Air that makes me think of Will Smith as primarily a comedic actor at that point. Because, he and Keanu really had a similar path. They started with comedy and then proved they could do action. I guess Will Smith’s action movies were a bit more action comedy. Men in Black is definitely a sci fi action comedy. Bad Boys was an action comedy. Independence Day wasn’t really a sci fi action comedy, but he did punch out an alien. But, Will Smith did do Enemy of the State, and I don’t remember much comedy in that. For Keanu, Speed isn’t an action comedy, but there’s some light-hearted stuff in it. But, Point Break (from what I remember) was a more serious tone.

        But, I think by 1999 if you were hiring Keanu Reeves for a purely serious action role, that wouldn’t be seen as strange. And, if you were hiring Will Smith for a purely serious role, it would probably be seen as wasting his talent.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Larry Fishbourne and Joey Pants were pretty well known.

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    • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Laurence Fishburne was a big face at the time if i remember correctly. Keanu had just done Speed and The Devils Advocate. That was a strange movie.

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    • moakley@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Keanu was famous, but the way I remember it he wasn’t a huge box office draw yet.

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