Which would you rather have as the dominant platform. Consoles, or cloud gaming?
Because if “market conditions” kill consoles, they will shrink PC gaming hardware sales too, and I don’t want a world where devs target cloud gaming first.
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
Honestly I hope the ENTIRE console industry completely dies off. Hopefully Nintendo bites it first, but they’re all fucking shitty as hell (for SO many reasons) and I hope they all go extinct by the time Trump does.
There, I said it, I’m not sorry, and I will die on this hill. I don’t even think there’s any reasonable counter point beyond it being a simple entry point with easy to plug in pre-configured boxes.
So fight me. Consoles suck, and they should go extinct.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
First, I wasn’t saying it would be market conditions doing it. Honestly I’d love to see all the companies eat the shit they’ve already stepped in.
Preferably it would be people wising up and realizing that they are factually bad compared to PCs. Demand would (in this good timeline) drop to zero overnight and kill them off immediately.
Not sure why you’re so sure that cloud would be the next winner either. Until network speeds get above the speed of light, as long as real time games exist, cloud gaming will never be very popular. It’ll be at best the “gaming you have at home” meme.
The delay will always be too much for any serious game where real time input and reactions are core components.
So I don’t see cloud gaming ever getting huge.
And even in your version, if PCs do take a hit (they already are with the RAMpocalypse), it’s still a smaller hit than being defunct.
But overall the main point is no technology should ever be locked down to one company. If your hardware only plays games allowed by one company, then you’ve got yourself a piece of shit. Period.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Not sure why you’re so sure that cloud would be the next winner either.
Because, in aggregate, gamers are stupid consumers.
I hate to be so blunt, but they have, repeatedly and demonstrably, made uninformed purchases. They buy bad games on launch day, complain, then turn around and do it again. Heck, they’ll hardly even look at AMD or Intel GPUs now simply because there’s isn’t even the minimum amount of effort made to shop around.
They are going to just buy the cloud gaming subscriptions if that’s all that’s financially viable
Keep in mind that I’m talking about the bulk market. Sure, plenty of us will turn our nose up. But the R&D required to even develop consumer hardware requires volume, so pickings and refreshes will get slimmer with less money in the pool.
DillDough@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
Tbh all over simplified tech going away would be nice. Force people to learn and think to use devices and services, at least get away from the “app and console” type of mindsets.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Yours is an aggressive timeline, but I think the market is naturally trending that way for a lot of reasons.
totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 hours ago
Challenge accepted!
The Steam deck is pretty cool because it is just a really nice handheld PC that lets me (or, more typically, my wife) play everything in my very extensive Steam library.
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
Maybe it was unclear, but by “console” I was implying a locked down device stuck with only using software licensed (or whatever the applicable legal term is) to a specific company’s hardware.
And given that a steam deck (love mine btw) isn’t locked down in any way beyond having native access to a specific vendor’s store, doesn’t apply (neither does steam machine).
Any locked down technology at all is kinda suspect, tbh. Capitalism is fucking horrendous.
totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
Well met, sir!
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I don‘t really see a future where game consoles die but gaming PCs don‘t because of hardware shortages. It‘s either cloud all the way or this becomes the era of mobile gaming even for core gamers.
Personally I hope we can somewhat return to normal in a few years. That is after the bubble popped and even the last investor realized most data centers won‘t get built anymore.