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yakko@feddit.uk ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• manualoverride@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Why? He has always sounded like a really genuinely nice and thoughtful person.

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  • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    His older work stands up mostly, but lately he has thrown in with the wave of “anti-woke” comedians, repeatedly doubling down when criticised for making transphobic remarks.

    A comedian these days has a very difficult choice to make, it must be said. I fully admit it! They have to do a lot of emotional and mental labour to make light of the very dark times we live in, or they can just side with far-right billionaires and culture war reactionaries and just make easy punch-down jokes about people who already face incredible violence. It’s got to be so hard!

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    • manualoverride@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve had a look at this and if you replace trans with any other protected group the jokes are objectively satire and clearly meant to be comedy and not transphobic. There is no part of me who is in any way anti-trans, I couldn’t care less what gender you are now or used to be. In this case I think some people just don’t want to be the subject of jokes no matter how innocent the intentions.

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      • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I really don’t care to litigate anyone’s comedy, it’s the reaction that damned him. The simple truth is that if someone doesn’t like your joke, they’re right.

        Nobody has ever seriously defended our explained a joke so well that it eventually became funny, and every professional comedian knows it. You either spin it into a different bit or apologise and move on. You’ve got to be a real prick to be that rich, privileged, safe, and still think you have to defend a joke that hurt someone’s feelings. “Sorry that one sucked, no hate.” How hard is that?

        If a veteran comedian like him chooses to get serious and defend a joke, that tells me they weren’t joking or they have a different motive than mere entertainment. Trust is built slowly, quickly lost. Especially among persecuted groups.

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  • Tikiporch@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He holds some disagreeable opinions and has probably done at least several things wrong.

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    • Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That describes the majority of people, and really depends on who’s defining what’s an agreeable opinion.

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      • Tikiporch@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Indeed.

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• Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I like him and I’m going nowhere.

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  • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah you are, you’re fucking off!

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