You are supposed to use your muzzle if you need to use your gun as a melee weapon. That’s why bayonets exist.
rljkeimig@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
It appears they are using the barrel of the rifle to break the window, which is even sillier than the other thing.
SalamenceFury@piefed.social 7 hours ago
teft@piefed.social 4 hours ago
No. You buttstrike someone if you have no bayonet. Striking someone with the barrel is dumb because youre at least gonna fuck up your zero and you might bend the barrel which could cause a rapid unscheduled disassembly of your rifle when you fire it.
SalamenceFury@piefed.social 4 hours ago
Military and police training literally say that if you need to melee with your gun you use a muzzle strike - it’s usually reserved for someone who’s actively trying to grab your gun by the barrel and you don’t actually feel like using lethal force. Using a muzzle strike against a fleshy target won’t do anything. Hitting someone with your stock might actually break the gun if the recoil spring goes through it.
teft@piefed.social 4 hours ago
I remember my bayonet class from my time in the army. We were never taught any such thing. We were actively discouraged from hitting things with our muzzle.
What is your experience with rifle combat? Because mine is practical application in iraq.
Carmakazi@piefed.social 7 hours ago
Barrel/muzzle device = steel, buttstock is usually plastic nowadays, not the dumbest thing I’ve seen these goons do. Muzzle strikes are a thing in long arm combatives.
Probably should have used an actual tool for it, though. And maybe not gangster-gripping the rifle to get a downward trajectory of the round for safety (I am being really, really generous here).
rljkeimig@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
More it seems unsafe than damaging to the rifle, but I guess they don’t care about that anyway?
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 6 hours ago
Very fucking unsafe to drive the muzzle of your rifle into any rigid object. Muzzle strikes are a thing. However you target the soft tissue of an assailant that has gotten within grabbing distance of your weapon and you do not want to kill them.
What this asshole did is dangerous on many fronts. They’re using what appears to be their suppressor, which is atleast an 8” lever, that’s likely screwed into an adapter that’s then screwed onto the barrel. It’s as much of a rube goldberg setup as it sounds. However under normal wear and tear still usually robust. It’s designed to be used in tension to suppress the muzzle flash and report of a fired round by slowing and cooling the resulting gasses.
What it’s not designed as is to be used in compression, like a FUCKING HAMMER. What this asshole is doing is striking a hard surface, with a steel blunt tube, comprised of a very complicated inner geometry. Not only that but he’s striking at an angle levering the wide and rigid tube against a narrow coupler.
Now to as to the biomechanics of what is happening. He had his hand on the pistol grip and his support hand around the barrel. There’s no fucking leverage there he can meaningfully exert. There’s a reason spears don’t have pistol grips. So the hand around the pistol grip is going to try to get the most purchase on the weapon. Which means it’ll be riding up to the upper of the weapon and on the way there it could turn the weapon safety. Also, around that pistol grip is the trigger.
The driver of that car is being terrorized, by a moron, who very easily could’ve had a negligent discharge and shot her.
Fucking nightmare fuel all around. Those poor women. I hope they get justice because I would’ve gone to jail or died if it were me recording.
watson387@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
This is an excellent commentary. Thanks!
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
Some muzzle devices are explicitly designed to shatter glass alongside normal function - although they’re commonly found on breaching shotguns.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Yes but what about rule #4 of gun safety: Never point your gun at anything you don’t want a bullet hole in?
Was he ready to shoot them?
AA5B@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Or perhaps they could realize that honking your horn is free speech and have some sense of perspective - there should not have been an assault rifle
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
There are specific window-breaker muzzle attachments for this purpose. It’s not what I’d use either if something without a gun mounted behind it was available though. Some eBay warrior wanted to try out their high-speed tacticool gear and got their golden opportunity.