Comment on JD Vance visits Milan, Italy

CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Neo has a really good video on the presidential motorcade and how it works. It is absurd in a place like Milan, certainly, but every part of it is there for a reason.

  Here is that video on Nebula

  And here it is on YouTube

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  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    One size doesn’t fit all.

    Moreover, the president is getting the treatment of a king. They are ostensibly fungible assets. There’s a succession plan. The more they’re protected, the more they’re a target (and invading foreign countries doesn’t help).

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    • TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      One size doesn’t fit all.

      I agree, which is why I said using the motorcade in Milan is absurd. 🙂

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      • e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        and looking at their license plates, around half of them have US ones, which means those cars were probably flown in. or do they have a standing motorcade for Europe? I saw one car had german plates…

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  • coaxil@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That was a very interesting video, thanks for the share

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• TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Disable one in front, one in rear, and you’ve got them kettled.

  Loads RPG

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  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨27⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I had the same impulse when seeing that convoy. I think there should be enough stuff from the war in ex-yugoslavia floating around, and with the current political climate there shouldn’t be an issue finding 50-100 people to place on rooftops.

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  • SippyCup@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    the secret service wants to know your location.

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• ageedizzle@piefed.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I guess from a security perspective it also helps to obfuscate Vance’s whereabouts. It’s difficult to know which one of the 40 vehicles he’s actually in.

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  • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨27⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Obfuscation is part of the motorcade, but not to the extent you would think. The motorcade has two presidential limos, and the POTUS is typically put in one while the VP is put in the other. The order is random. The idea being that if you manage to bomb one, you’d only get one of the two, and you’d have no way of knowing which one you got until after the fact. And that’s assuming the bomb is even effective, because the presidential limos have RPG-proof windows and heavy armored plating underneath the body panels.

    Most of the motorcade is focused on things like landmine detection, biological weapon detection, chemical weapon detection, standby security forces in case they need to fan out/circle the wagons and create a secure perimeter, monitoring local radio chatter, etc…

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  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Only the first two vehicles show signs of armouring. I don’t think that all this theatrics would happen and then not put the cargo in the armoured car.

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    • SippyCup@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      He’s in one of two cars, they’re easily identifiable. The rest are various security assets. Armed dudes, jamming suites, surveillance, etc.

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• Tetsuo@jlai.lu ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s them applying the same stray as in the US even though they are in Milan and the roads are twice as narrow.

  I suppose they think there is so many cars it would be hard to know in which the couch fucker is. But still you are correct to say that convoy could be easily completely blocked. And in that case you could have an army to defend it it would be a very bad situation.

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• RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Or given a raise if something happened.

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• Marthirial@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Unless you are not in America, being surprise at the incompetence and stupidity of these fuckers in power is unacceptable.

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