Comment on Is it really dangerous to fall sleep in the bath?

• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Dry drowning… That shit is low key terrifying

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• givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The cautionary stories came about with the era of bored housewives who drank heavily and took pretty heavy prescription drugs…

  But they were also wealthy so rather than say OD or suicide they “fell asleep” in the bath.

  And I’m sure more than a few murders got wrote off as the same thing. A housewife that habitually passes out deeply could just got tossed in the tub.

  Because like you said, no sober person is staying asleep till they drown.

  But people hear the cover story and believe it, so they warn people about something that just won’t happen

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nowadays you “died doing a tiktok challenge” and then your parents launch a legal case against tiktok to lend credence to their story

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  • ageedizzle@piefed.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Very interesting take. I think you might be onto something. Similar to the concept of ‘fan death’ in Korea. I’ve heard it’s often the go-to cause of death when the real cause of death is considered embarrassing or shameful

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• YoFrodo@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Possibly, but you might just pass out and drown. Theres also something called Dry Drowning where you get enough water in your lungs that you slowly suffocate, even when not in the water any more. Its about minimizing risks. Sleeping in the tub increases your risk of drowning.

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  • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    But do we have some real stats around it?

    Because like OP, I’ve heard it my entire life and have never heard of someone drowning in the tub without being drugged up or really ill.

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    • YoFrodo@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26046678/

      A bathtub drowning is one of the leading causes of death in a bathtub. The purpose of this study was to evaluate how reliable the drowning-related signs could be for identifying a bathtub drowning in the cases of death in the bathtub. Performing a retrospective review of 92 deaths in the bathtub in Maryland, 71.7 percent were the presence of bathtub drowning and 28.3 percent were the absence of bathtub drowning. Three leading contributory causes of death were cardiovascular disease, drug/alcohol-related death, and seizure disorder in both groups. There was a statistically significant difference between the groups in relation to a history of recovery from the water (95.5% and 38.4%, p<0.001), foam in the air way (33.3% and 15.4%, p<0.05), watery fluid in the sphenoid sinuses (81.8% and 11.5%, p<0.05), hyperinflated lungs (36.4% and 3.8%, p<0.01), and watery fluid in the stomach contents (40.9% and 3.8%, p<0.01). More than triple overlapped drowning-related signs could be beneficial for the diagnosis of a bathtub drowning. A comprehensive investigation incorporating a thorough scene investigation, gathering of the victim’s medical and psychosocial history, and a meticulous full autopsy is necessary to elucidate both the cause and manner of death in these cases of death in the bathtub.

      So there are usually contributing factors like age, alcohol/drugs, or other medical issues. So ask yourself this: Can you be certain that you will never have a medical issue in a bathtub that might lead to you drowning? Have you ever bathed while drunk or high?

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      • ageedizzle@piefed.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That makes sense. But I feel like the warnings about not falling asleep in the bathtub are often handed out generically, including to people who are perfectly sober and in good health

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    • ageedizzle@piefed.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes some stats would be nice. If it were really that dangerous to fall asleep in the bath I think it would be negligent to let children take unsupervised baths, yet kids do all the time (at least I did when I was a kid). I think thats because most people intuitively know that drowning is not super likely

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  • ageedizzle@piefed.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Okay thats fair enough. Does inhaling water generally make people pass out?

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    • YoFrodo@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Lack of oxygen does

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      • in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Paradoxically it’s only build up of CO2 or foriegn matter, including water that will wake someone up. Hypoxia makes it more likely to pass out and drown.

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      • ageedizzle@piefed.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I guess if you get some water in your lungs it might make sense that you struggle to get enough oxygen. I guess it depends on how deep of an inhale you take before you notice and start to wake up

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    • BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m sure the sleeping in the bath problem would be a sudden awakening when you take your first gulp of water…but a person who’s had a lot to drink may not wake up

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      • ageedizzle@piefed.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah thats why I’m so sceptical of this whole thing. Like, wouldn’t you just wake up before drowning?

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