Comment on If God had wanted us to have nearly unlimited clean energy, He would have placed a fusion reactor into the sky.

atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• trslim@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The amount of birds that actually get killed by wind turbines has always been dubious at best. And having been next to a wind turbine, they really aren’t that noisy.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    In the early days of electricity, people complained they got headaches.

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  • atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m not saying they are bad or not preferred. I’m just saying there are cases for fusion/fission sometimes.

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    • simcup@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      yep. it’s called “deep space” and “half the way to the ord cloud”

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• nulluser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Wind turbines kill birds and are noisy.

  Technology Connections made a video specifically for you. youtu.be/KtQ9nt2ZeGM

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• tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Solar panels providing shade to grazing animals and crops is a mutual win, not the loss you make it out to be. Search for “the trampolining effect”

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  • atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Thanks for sharing!

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• MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Fields with solar panels (10-40% shadowing) actually have up to 20% more yield here, since summers get too hot for 1 - 2 months. Swiss, not far south.

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  • atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s my point. The social benefit of renewables are environmentally and temporally differentiating. It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t invest in them! We definitely should, and likely more than we do. But all I’m saying if you were to calculate the environmental and societal long run costs, I believe there must be places and situations where fission/fusion is preferred sometimes.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I believe there must be places and situations where fission/fusion is preferred sometimes.

      Heavy industry. Metal casting, metal purification from ore, rockwool insulation, cement, glass works, all use huge energy.

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• Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Fusion(…) pose security risks

  Wait, what kind? Doesn’t the reaction just fizzle out and become safely dormant if anything wrong happens?

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  • atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m thinking more in terms of warfare

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    • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      how so?

      The technology to use fusion as a bomb already exists. and has 0 to do with how the reactors work

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      • atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        For example when Russia invaded Ukraine and they attacked Chernobyl. Maybe it’s not founded in real risk. But I imagine it could be a security threat for someone to bomb a nuclear facility.

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• SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Wind turbines kill birds and are noisy.

  No they are not, no they do not.

  Visit a wind farm. You will find far more dead birds at the base of a glass office building. Last summer I walked through a farm of 16 wind turbines and never saw a dead bird.

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