Comment on Australians banned social media. Now they are worried about teenagers going outside with e-bikes

• BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I get your point, but it’s not a good one. I’m an adult and Lemmy doesn’t use algorithms to instill emotions or push ads.

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  • ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In my opinion, algorithms and dark patterns in social media need to be destroyed. Any of us who remember early social media will remember it not being anywhere near as bad as the monstrosity it has evolved into today.

    Instagram was quite fun when it had a reputation for being a “hipster” platform and before Facebook bought it and absolutely butchered it, for example. Now it’s genuinely horrible.

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    • BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Couldn’t agree more. Social media isn’t the problem, sure. The hyper aggressive algorithms that most of them use are extremely harmful to individuals and society.

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      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think most people agree but when we slip into trashing social media as a concept and lose the nuance I get concerned.

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    • Baggie@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Fuck man, I’m old enough to remember Facebook was exclusively posts by my friends. Shit has come a long way.

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      • papalonian@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yup. I’d log in, scroll for maybe 10-15 posts before I saw the first one from yesterday, play some Wild Ones, and that was that.

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  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    ok so sounds like the problem isn’t social media then?

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    • BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s like saying beer doesn’t cause alcoholism, the alcohol in it does. You’re being pedantic.

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      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No, when you just say social media = bad you feed into the moral panic with your intellectual laziness.

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    • seshcobar@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      you seem like a very fun person to be around.

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      • BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        He’s just being argumentative. Some people think that’s a personality trait.

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      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        :)

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• CannonFodder@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Social media is a terrible for us. Me included. It’s addictive - that’s why I’m here. It’s even worse for kids as it fucks up their social skills development. And we have the power to help them avoid it, just like we were lucky enough to grow up before it. Once they’re old enough they can then choose to fuck them selves up, like they can with alcohol, weed, porn, etc.

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  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Social media is a terrible for us. Me included. It’s addictive - that’s why I’m here.

    If that is how you feel I encourage you to start from a position of curiosity about what draws you here beyond a simple thought terminating comparison to an addictive physical substance or our sex drive.

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• Zak@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is a forum.

  Forums and blogs could be classed as social media, but they predate widespread use of the term, and are fundamentally different from the corporate social platforms.

  It’s the combination of an individualized engagement algorithm and user-generated content that defines modern social media.

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  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s the combination of an individualized engagement algorithm and user-generated content that defines modern social media.

    This is precisely what is supercharging this moral panic, people don’t automatically think critically about this and will bandwagon on social media = bad because it feels righteous and is easy unless WE force a more nuanced conversation.

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