Comment on London stabbing rates vs X posts about London crime
Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 days agoMy best guess is they mean that leftists tend to prefer abandoning mainstream social media platforms than fighting against the right on them. Hence Facebook, twitter etc turning full right wing while we find refuge in places like here.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
The right owns those platforms and most of the leftists are still there regardless.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Regardless if they own them. It’s still where the most amount of social relevance is. Some are there and it’s growing. But the left cannot win anything going forward unless they beat the fuck out of the reich on these platforms. They own it, but they can’t just flip a switch saying censor lefties and allow their ideas to spread. We’d all know and it would wildly turn a lot of people away from them. They are forced to leave the gates open. So instead they convince us to self censor. Reality is we all should be there now, building groups and putting their ideas against the ropes. It’s a numbers game. Play the game. Give them no area to spread bullshit uncontested.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Do you honestly think that they don’t boost right-wing stuff? They can and they do. I’ll give you an example. After Trump got elected and Zuckerberg was genuflecting at him, I suddenly started seeing Trump shit in my Facebook feed. This is even with an adblocker and FBP, which normally lets me block sponsored shit. Another example: At X, Musk has ideas like “white genocide” baked into the platform’s AI chatbot. You can’t reform a system like that. You have to abandon it.
Right. The left is only going to win by…arguing with CHUDs on X? What an obvious waste of time. Yes, organize, but you don’t need to organize at the Nazi bar. In fact, organizing at the Nazi bar is pretty clearly a bad idea. They control the platform. They have your personal and private data. What do you think that they’re going to do if you start winning? Come on.
Also, if “we should all be there now”, why are you here? Why aren’t you arguing with Nazis on X? Sounds like you’ve got a lot of work to do!
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 days ago
What is response? Do you think people going into to the streets against armed forces should pack up because the authoritarians have total control over the streets and can kick in heads at their discretion. Fuck that, people show up to oppose them regardless what they control to contest them and at the very least make it harder for the authoritarians rather than making it easier for them.
Who gives a shit if they boost right wing content. That shouldn’t stop anyone. That is a defeatist attitude that is spread all over the left and it needs to fucking stop.
If they boost their content, you go to the comments. It’s a numbers game. You’re not arguing with the chuds. You’re playing the game. Same game most people are all aware of yet others are blind to. You need numbers. Humans are social. They change opinions slowly over time, but only if they see the herd moving. This is why they’re attempting to control these platforms and convince the left to abandon them.
Regardless, the reality is they don’t just boost right wing content. They boost content that sells ads. Engagement sells. So when you all leave, it rebalanced everything to the right and their content spread. Leftist creators tried to break through and failed without Engagement. Right wing propaganda spread further and faster than ever before.
Arguing with CHUDS online is the biggest industry there is. There’s a reason for it. Call it whatever you like but it’s undeniable fact. These platforms are critical to stopping fascists. Fascist rely on public displays of strength and power. It’s the only place you can make them look like assholes effectively in front of the people that they’re trying to appear strong to.
You talk about wasting time. The biggest waste of effort and time is posting the same fucking anti trump slop here on lemmy but can’t be bothered to do it anywhere else. We all know he sucks and what they’re doing. This content isn’t created to hand to people who agree with you. People need to be flooding the zone with it.