My best guess is they mean that leftists tend to prefer abandoning mainstream social media platforms than fighting against the right on them. Hence Facebook, twitter etc turning full right wing while we find refuge in places like here.
Regardless if they own them. It’s still where the most amount of social relevance is. Some are there and it’s growing. But the left cannot win anything going forward unless they beat the fuck out of the reich on these platforms. They own it, but they can’t just flip a switch saying censor lefties and allow their ideas to spread. We’d all know and it would wildly turn a lot of people away from them. They are forced to leave the gates open. So instead they convince us to self censor. Reality is we all should be there now, building groups and putting their ideas against the ropes. It’s a numbers game. Play the game. Give them no area to spread bullshit uncontested.
Do you honestly think that they don’t boost right-wing stuff? They can and they do. I’ll give you an example. After Trump got elected and Zuckerberg was genuflecting at him, I suddenly started seeing Trump shit in my Facebook feed. This is even with an adblocker and FBP, which normally lets me block sponsored shit. Another example: At X, Musk has ideas like “white genocide” baked into the platform’s AI chatbot. You can’t reform a system like that. You have to abandon it.
The left cannot win anything going forward unless they beat the fuck out of the reich on these platforms. There is no protest that can succeed if we don’t have a good presence on the platforms that people get their opinions from.
Reality is we all should be there now, building groups and putting their ideas against the ropes.
Right. The left is only going to win by…arguing with CHUDs on X? What an obvious waste of time. Yes, organize, but you don’t need to organize at the Nazi bar. In fact, organizing at the Nazi bar is pretty clearly a bad idea. They control the platform. They have your personal and private data. What do you think that they’re going to do if you start winning? Come on.
Also, if “we should all be there now”, why are you here? Why aren’t you arguing with Nazis on X? Sounds like you’ve got a lot of work to do!
Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
My best guess is they mean that leftists tend to prefer abandoning mainstream social media platforms than fighting against the right on them. Hence Facebook, twitter etc turning full right wing while we find refuge in places like here.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
The right owns those platforms and most of the leftists are still there regardless.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Regardless if they own them. It’s still where the most amount of social relevance is. Some are there and it’s growing. But the left cannot win anything going forward unless they beat the fuck out of the reich on these platforms. They own it, but they can’t just flip a switch saying censor lefties and allow their ideas to spread. We’d all know and it would wildly turn a lot of people away from them. They are forced to leave the gates open. So instead they convince us to self censor. Reality is we all should be there now, building groups and putting their ideas against the ropes. It’s a numbers game. Play the game. Give them no area to spread bullshit uncontested.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Do you honestly think that they don’t boost right-wing stuff? They can and they do. I’ll give you an example. After Trump got elected and Zuckerberg was genuflecting at him, I suddenly started seeing Trump shit in my Facebook feed. This is even with an adblocker and FBP, which normally lets me block sponsored shit. Another example: At X, Musk has ideas like “white genocide” baked into the platform’s AI chatbot. You can’t reform a system like that. You have to abandon it.
Right. The left is only going to win by…arguing with CHUDs on X? What an obvious waste of time. Yes, organize, but you don’t need to organize at the Nazi bar. In fact, organizing at the Nazi bar is pretty clearly a bad idea. They control the platform. They have your personal and private data. What do you think that they’re going to do if you start winning? Come on.
Also, if “we should all be there now”, why are you here? Why aren’t you arguing with Nazis on X? Sounds like you’ve got a lot of work to do!