US too, crime has been dropping for decades but we apparently need a Gestapo force to go after criminal gangs
Comment on London stabbing rates vs X posts about London crime
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Fear mongering right wing media machine goes brrrrrr
Same thing in Germany with crime in general constantly dropping while anti immigration sentiment keeps rising under the excuse of “violent immigrants”
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 1 day ago
wander1236@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Well someone has to bring the crime back up
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 22 hours ago
Those privately owned prisons won’t fill themselves.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The curious thing about US crime statistics is that we only count crimes against the state. We never count crimes committed by the state.
I would argue that US Crime has been sharply on the rise, from within the organs of the government itself.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
The definition of “crime” is pretty much controlled by a small number of people: It ain’t a crime if there’s no law against it.
Always remember that the mass murder of Jews and Roma in NAZI Germany wasn’t a crime because it was all legal. Similarly, Slavery wasn’t a crime in most of the World, and even today in many countries, such as the US some forms of it (for example using prisioners as forced labour) aren’t a crime.
We’ve been indoctrinated into in everyday speech conflate Legality with Morality (as its very useful for those who control lawmaking for the riff-raff to unthinkingly shun those deemed law-breakers and side with law-enforcers), so IMHO it’s a good idea to, once in a while, remind oneself that Laws are made by Humans, not Gods, and the reasons for Humans to make Laws as they are, are messy and the results themselves are often bad and easy to selectivelly interpret and abuse.
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
True but I didn’t want to get into the nitty gritty and just comment on the conservative “crime in the streets!!” fantasy
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 hours ago
which they arnt, because actual gangs will shoot you on sight. thats why the FOR-PROFIT prisons and gop is freaking out that thier CASH cow is drying up.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Rightwingers keep trying to make Cali look like a crime ridden cesspool and Texas the peak of law and order, but crime statics between the two are marginal. They tend to shutdown whenever I cite sources on that.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 hours ago
texas has more murders, shooting on average. and they believe it to be the opposite.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
A common trope of this kind of “Press” in the UK was (no idea if still is, as I left Britain some years ago) the “many generations of the same family living on benefits (i.e social security)”, which was part to greater far-right picture they very purposefully painted of poor people as leeches.
Somebody actual went and researched it and found out that in the whole of Britain - home to over 40 million people - there was a grand total of 3 families with 3 generations living on benefits, 4 if you count the massive stippend the Royal family gets from the British state as “benefits”, though they’re filthy rich and don’t actually need it.
A common schitck of the far-right propaganda to selects a handful of people who are assholes and happen to be part of a social group said far-right wishes to slander and point them out as if they’re representative of whole group. They do this for everybody, not just immigrants and it’s not just them doing it: for example, notice how news coverage of demonstrations from some News organisations tends to focus of the handful of people destroying things rather than on the majority who are behaving peacefully.
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
It worked in United States. It’s the classic moral panic youtu.be/pwQqOdfc7pw