Comment on Why do horses allow humans to ride on their backs?

jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Bazoogle@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Are you saying those slaves are basically animals? Or that horses are basically people? I’m assuming you’re more so going for the latter, which is still a wild idea. They are domesticated animals, not people.

  With your logic, just think of all the enslaved cats and dogs being forced to live in homes with lots of pets and constantly be fed and loved. Does animal cruelty happen? Of course. But to suggest domesticated horses are being enslaved because people have ridden horses for 5,000 years is truly a wild take.

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  • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yes, the enslaved animals who are inconsistently fed and ignored. All those dogs forced to live in apartments without any interaction the entire day while their slavers slave away as slaves themselves.

    Just because a few people out there genuinely care and treat their pets correctly does not mean the rest are. This is why PETA exists.

    Obviously you have some extremely thick rose colored glasses on.

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  • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    fuck off

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    • Bazoogle@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      the very fucking obvious answer that satisfies both questions is, “they don’t have a fucking choice”

      You are comparing two things that are categorically different. Horses are not moral agents like people are, so slavery literally cannot apply. No animal has moral choices. We do not arrest an animal for breaking laws, because laws cannot apply to an animal. The issue with riding horses is one of welfare, not consent or freedom.

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      • KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK616110/

        You are wrong. All thinking, feeling animals have the capacity for morality. Compassion and empathy have long been touted to be the traits that separate man from beast, but lo, compassion exists in the animal kingdom as well.

        Nothing that makes people be people is significantly different than anything else found in the animal kingdom. Segregation of empathy is also a learned trait of those who trend towards lower overall intelligence.

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