Comment on 'What the f***': Modding arch-sorcerer casually invents Minecraft x Hytale crossplay, defies laws of god and man alike

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• exist@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Nah it’s just that they have blocks of the same size. It probably synchronizes terrain using analogous block types where possible, and player position. Basically it has to convert everything into something similar.

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  • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Translation, not emulation.

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• NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  As Sahib explained in replies on Reddit and X, Hytale is serving as the host for the crossplay session, and while block placements are translated to equivalent blocks on the Minecraft side, it seems like only the prototype’s Hytale player is capable of placing new blocks. Considering he’s handbuilding a bridge between two different games with their own systems and mechanics, it’s not surprising that Sahib says “currently many things are Broken.”

  Based on this, it sounds like the Hytale server is providing map data to the Minecraft session, which is why the block placement works on the Hytale side but not the Minecraft side. He must have created some kind of translation table for block types between the engines.

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• artifex@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I doubt it. Hytale was built for modding and Minecraft has an extensive modding community with tons of netplay experience. This guy just wrote a translation layer between the two (not to diminish his efforts at all, it’s freaking awesome).

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• CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hytale is literally modded minecraft. Doesn‘t mean it shares the exact same code or engine but damn it‘s modded Minecraft.

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• frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  There’s no reason to suspect that.

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• gegil@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hytale is as different from minecraft, as java different to bedrock. I guess its just a translation layer, which allows changing identical blocks and running identical functions between each other. But of course there might be many things which hytale does different compared to both, java and bedrock, and the game itself released just a week ago, so for now, as the modder said, its very buggy and many features missing.

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• ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Probably not. This is more akin to using different apps to access the same service, like one person using Ivory and the other using Tusky to access Mastodon. Multiple clients accessing the same API endpoints is kind of how the internet operates, or at least was before big tech decided to shut out third-party apps.

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  • UntimedDiffusion@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    These aren’t the same service is the thing though. To try to keep the analogy, this feels more akin to someone posting a Twitter screenshot on Reddit

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    • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In this case, the service is the same thing. Both the Minecraft client and the Hytale client are connecting to a Hytale server. So I guess you could say it’s like if Lemmy had an official app, and you used that and the Boost app to connect to a Lemmy backend: the hypothetical Lemmy app would be the Hytale client, connecting the way it’s meant to to the service it was designed for; and the Boost app would be the Minecraft client, designed to connect to a different type of server but modified to work because the workloads are similar enough that they can be translated pretty simply.

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