War makes money
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Objection@lemmy.ml 18 hours agoThey don’t care who “wins”, they profit off of the war itself (and the rebuild for that matter).
Then why would they love tankies, some of the only people who consistently oppose them building and using tanks?
bbboi@feddit.uk 14 hours ago
Objection@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
But tankies oppose nearly all wars.
Aljernon@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
Tankies seek to use state violence to coerce and terrorize the working class into unquestioning obedience to the state. Sometimes that violence is directed at the working class in other states so it’s hard to argue they oppose war.
bbboi@feddit.uk 13 hours ago
Do you know what tanks are for?
Objection@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
Yes, that’s why “tankies” are generally opposed to building and deploying tanks, moreso than just about any ideology short of pacifism. Certainly moreso than liberals are.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
can’t have war if everyone surrenders too soon.
Objection@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
Exactly.
There’s only one war worth fighting and that’s the class war. Everything else is just throwing lives away for nothing.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Tankies are “authoritarian communists”, they are not pro peace in any way, they love tanks.
(standard definition, not familiar with the tankies that you describe)
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 17 hours ago
Bedtimes are authoritarian, your parents are dictators
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
My parents are dead! (runs out of room crying)
SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space 17 hours ago
did they head out on a guilt trip and never come back
bbboi@feddit.uk 14 hours ago
One day you’ll be an adult
Objection@lemmy.ml 16 hours ago
Really? Because I’m always calling for staying out of conflicts and dramatically reducing the military budget and people are constantly calling me a tankie because of those stances.
See, if you don’t want war, it means you support the other side, and however bad “our” side is, the other side is always worse and more aggressive (the media says so, after all) and that means that anyone who’s pro-peace is actually pro-war.
So it was when I said we shouldn’t invade Iraq and Afghanistan, it meant that I was “a terrorist sympathizer” and “pro-Al Qaida,” and when I say we should stay out of Palestine, people say I’m “pro-Hamas” and when I say we should stay out of Ukraine people say I’m “pro-Russia” and a “tankie.” Consistently advocating against the use of tanks is essentially the defining characteristic of a “tankie.”
bbboi@feddit.uk 14 hours ago
You sound much more of an isolationist than a tankie. Lol.
Aljernon@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
Isolationists would want to stay out of Ukraine to mind our own business, this guy wants to stay out of Ukraine because .ml is notorious for giving modern day Russia a free pass with their Imperial nonsense.
Objection@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
The word “isolationist” doesn’t exist in the vocabularies of most people around here. It doesn’t really matter why I disagree with US military interventions, the fact that I do means that I will inevitably be labelled tankie or a Russian bot. So you might as well ignore it, or love the word instead, cause you ain’t done nothing if you ain’t be called a Red.
Besides, I’m not wholly an isolationist. I have no problem with trade or foreign aid, so long as it isn’t military aid. More accurately, I’m a dove. But “dove” doesn’t exactly work as an insult. Some liberals even like to imagine that they’re doves, unbelievably.
But again, liberals don’t recognize that perspectives like “doves” or “isolationists” exist. You either follow the narrative of the media and politicians, or you get thrown into this big lump of Bad People™ with zero distinctions regarding why you disagree with them.