Comment on Clues by Sam

• ech@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  D3 - Tom has 5 innocent neighbors.

  4 are revealed, leaving one left between Sofia and Wanda, and the other must be a criminal.

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  • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I appreciate you responding and trying to hand hold me through this. So if I sound frustrated, it is not with you.

    ::: spoiler my experience.

    I really don’t see how that says Bruce is innocent. And when I got my first hint it highlighted two clues that were absolutely no help.

    So how did you decide there were only 2 guilties in column b? Sorry I can’t reference the my picture when responding.

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    • ech@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So how did you decide there were only 2 guilties in column b?

      So at the point just before your screenshot, the two clues that get highlighted for me are D3 and B2, which are the one’s I mentioned.

      • D3 is the clue that tells us there is only one innocent left to reveal around C4, meaning there is one innocent and one criminal between B4 and B5, though we don’t know which is which yet. And with B2 already being a criminal, B1 being criminal would give use three in the column.

      • B2 tells us column A is the only one with three criminals, so to fit all the clues, B1 has to be innocent.

      I tried to indicate 1&2 in column d and it said I didn’t have enough evidence. That seems like a big problem in the intended logic.

      For D1 and D2, we don’t have enough information before B1 is revealed because the options of them both being criminals or both innocent each fit the clues up to that point, making the choice a guess. After B1’s clue, the choice is clear.

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• MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  And the clue from Tom about Zara and Igor sharing neighbors… What? There’s two rows between them. They don’t share a neighbor. Or is my definition of a “neighbor” wrong?

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  • Bademantel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yes. I assume you mean Sofia? She has eight neighbors in total, two she shares with Igor. Both are innocent according to Tom.

    There is also a tutorial which helped me a lot.

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    • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Sorry, i meant Uma. She says Two innocents below Igor are neighbors of Zara

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      • zqps@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        “below” means the entire column below, i.e. Xavi and Tom.

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• squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I was stuck at the same one.

  First take Peter’s hint. It says that one of Sofia and Wanda is innocent, one is criminal. That means in Column B we know there are two innocents, two criminals and Bruce.

  Now take Gabe’s hint: there cannot be three criminals in Column B.

  If Bruce were criminal, there would be three criminals in Column B, so Bruce cannot be criminal.

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• Bademantel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Tap for spoiler

  With the information that Peter (D3) and Gabe (B2) provided, it’s clear that Bruce has to be innocent.

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  • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What does either of those clue have to do with Bruce, or even Row 1?

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    • Bademantel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Gabe: Column A is the only column with exactly 3 criminals. Peter: There are 5 innocents neighboring Tom.

      Given this combination we know that Bruce is innocent because either Sofia or Wanda have to be a criminal and because there cannot be exactly 3 criminals in column B: Bruce is innocent.

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      • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Ah okay… Da muss ich mir morgen wohl mehr Zeit geben um das zu lösen. Danke für die Erklärung

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  • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m also curious how Gabe provides anything.

    Also, it must’ve glitched or had an intention it wasn’t letting on.

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    • Bademantel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Gabe: Column A is the only column with exactly 3 criminals.

      Peter: There are 5 innocents neighboring Tom.

      Given this combination we know that Bruce is innocent because either Sofia or Wanda have to be a criminal and because there cannot be exactly 3 criminals in column B: Bruce is innocent.

      I copied my answer. I don’t know what you mean by glitch. The puzzle works with the given information.

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