I love seeing linguists on Lemmy. Wish we had a bigger community.
To put it in layman’s terms just focus on explaining that J is often [d͡ʒ] which already has a D sound in it.
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force@lemmy.world 7 months agoAmerican English phonology, GenAm /r/ is usually pronounced retracted, post-alveolar/pre-palatal (usually bunched/molar), so it causes alveolar consonants in the same cluster to retract/palatalize, usually into a post-alveolar affricate ([d͡ʒ] – the “j” sound for voiced stop /d/, [t͡ʃ] – the “ch” sound for voiceless stop /t/, [ʃ] – the “sh” sound for voiceless fricative /s/), [. The term would be assimilation (of place of articulation).
“Dragon” /dræ.gən/ -> [dɹ̠ᶹæ.ɡɪ̈n] -> [d̠ʒɹ̠æ.ɡ(ɪ̈)n]
You can see the same thing with words like “tree” /tri/ -> [t̠ʃɹ̠i], “Sri Lanka” /sri lɑŋ.kə/ -> [ʃɹ̠i lɑŋ.kə], or even “street” /strit/ -> [ʃt̠ɹ̠it]
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 7 months ago
dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Hey there now. We aint knowing any of your elvish. Best keep that to yourself, ya understand?
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
you’ve written tree as “tshree” there.
force@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Many dialects, indeed, pronounce “tree” as something one might perceive as “chree”.
Kase@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Aw crap, that’s how I pronounce it. Now I can’t unhear it
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Okay, I think I get it. When I say “dr-” the r is made with the tip of my tongue just behind my front teeth, but when I say “jr-” (like in badger), the r is made with the middle of my tounge in the middle of my mouth. Neat!