Imagine arguing that creating a service so much better than the competition available in that industry that it drives people to spend the most money on that platform is a bad thing.
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chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Never thought I’d see the day when Lemmy has nice things to say about a billionaire who owns multiple yachts!
There’s a story recently about how a huge percentage of people’s steam libraries are never played. People just spending money on steam sales and amassing huge backlogs of games they’ll never get to. Valve has mastered the art of using sales to create FOMO and drive unnecessary spending!
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
It isn’t better though? GOG is a better service. DRM-free, web based downloads (galaxy is completely optional). They even invest development resources to get old games working better.
Steam is mostly the dominant platform due to first-mover advantage. They aren’t the best and most of the games on Steam aren’t even exclusives.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Here’s a blog post on GOG talking about how many developers abandon their games on there so they don’t get updates or DLC like they do on other platforms gog.com/…/how_do_games_recieving_updates_work_on_…
I like GOG and love DRM free games however another point is that many, many games are never even available on GOG to begin with. So what do you do then?
Would you rather buy them on Xbox, PlayStation, Epic or Steam?
Most people choose steam because it is the best out of all those options.
I agree having a DRM free game that you own forever is the best option but 7 times out of 10 a new game won’t even be listed on GOG in the first place and if it is refer back to the link about how they often get abandoned with no updates or DLC and therefore less features than on other platforms.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Proton is built on the open source project Wine and private products from CodeWeavers. Yes, Valve has contributed a tremendous amount to the project but they aren’t deserving of sole credit for it.
I own neither an Xbox nor a PlayStation (nor a Switch, for that matter).
There are LOADS of other options besides AAA games on the big platforms. There are countless vintage games, freeware, shareware, and abandonware that can all be played on the Internet Archive. There are countless indie developers out there to support, including some that have been in business for more than 30 years.
It really bothers me when gamers act like the big publishers are the only game in town (while also complaining about how bad AAA games are now). I mean if you like AAA games, fine, no argument there from me. But if you also like games for their stories and gameplay and don’t need AAA graphics to have a good time then there are thousands and thousands of options out there. I just think most people are unaware of them.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
Many games on Steam don’t have any DRM enabled and will boot without it. You just need to check
tawaken@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Wait, why we should not argue? Steam is not perfect so we yap. Also not good enough considering it’s just a game listing library and still taking 30% cut from devs imo.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
Never said not to argue.
I said imagine your argument being that because a service does sales all the time and consumer relations better than almost all the competition available in the industry that that’s a bad thing because people spend money on said sales.
Its a bit of a shit argument.
“They have so many sales all the time that they force people into spending money they shouldn’t spend! And that’s bad!!”
tawaken@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
“Never said not to argue.” Ok.
Btw, PlayStation and Xbox provide whole console system, Apple store and Google play are also 30% and they provide iOS and Android. It’s not same as Valve.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
he just took ownership of a $500M megayacht. Yes, he’s a bit better than other billionaires, but he’s still a billionaire. While other people starve to death he’s sitting pretty on billions. He’s as unethical as the rest of the oligarchy.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
What exactly should be done about that?
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Done about what? I stopped using steam. I buy games directly from developers or from GOG or humble bundle as well as just supporting open source games.
Nothing I can do about GabeN’s yachts though!
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
About people buying more games then they need. you are acting like that is gabe’s fault.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Its even crazier when that dude realizes that Steam doesn’t even set the prices, the game developers and publishers do.
I feel like people don’t understand this a lot
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I mean you can blame gamblers for losing all their money to Las Vegas too but that’s not a common opinion on Lemmy!
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Developers and publishers set the prices of sales like CD Projekt who makes Cyberpunk and has a 65% off sale right now.
So look at that, the company that owns GOG is one of the companies you’re upset about making all those sales and “taking money” from people.
Wheres the hate man? Why not boycott?
Or is that only for Steam and not really about who sets the sales?
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
It’s not sales specifically that I have an issue with, it’s a business model based on selling people tons of games they don’t play. Is GOG doing that too? Well I don’t like that either, but at least I can take my games with me when I leave GOG because they’re DRM free downloads from a web browser.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Yeah the owners of GOG (CD Projekt) aren’t rich either?
Idk man the games you play are designed by groups of people (maybe except our Stardew Valleys and whatnot) and those people spend hours upon hours developing said games.
You know that takes money to make happen right?
nialv7@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
So your position is a store should never have sales? Besides, pretty sure games need to willingly participate to be on sale. e.g. factorio has never been on sale.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I didn’t give my position.
I don’t participate in steam sales anymore. I don’t buy anything on steam because I’ve already got way more games than I’ll ever be able to play. If there’s a new game that I really want to play I’ll try to get it from outside steam if I can, or at the very least make sure it’s DRM-free so I can play it without launching the steam client (I hate the steam client but that’s just my opinion and I won’t tell anyone else what to feel about it).
Do I think they should be banned from having sales? No. I also don’t think gambling should be made illegal even though I’ll continue trying to warn people away from gambling.
nialv7@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
so you yourself is an example of how sales don’t make you spend money…
personally i don’t really buy random games because they are on sale. like, i go through the list of games shown on the steam sale page and most of the time i will find nothing interesting. what usually happens is i would wishlist games i want to play, then wait until steam sales and see if i get a discount.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
I’m not a compulsive gambler either, but I have friends who are. Am I not allowed to be opposed to gambling?