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tawaken@lemmy.world 18 hours ago“Never said not to argue.” Ok.
Btw, PlayStation and Xbox provide whole console system, Apple store and Google play are also 30% and they provide iOS and Android. It’s not same as Valve.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
Me saying “imagine arguing” is the same same as saying “your argument is stupid because” and that is not the same as saying not to argue.
I said imagine arguing the points they argued because they are silly. Lots of storefronts have sales shit epic even gives shit away for free every week and gives 20% back in points when you buy a game fron them but you don’t hear anyone talking about how they “create FOMO” by not participating in their storefront.
Its a dumb argument. That is what “imagine arguing” means in that context. Hope that helps.
And yeah they make the console that you have to pay a fee to use internet on. Valve doesn’t do that. If you stop paying their exorbitant fees to use the internet you pay for already to play their games online then you lose half the functionality of your game that you bought. (For multiplayer ones of course).
Valve also makes systems but yes it isn’t quite the same as how PS and Xbox do it I understand what you are saying. However, everyone acts like Steam is greedy dickheads for charging the exact same rate other platforms charge without also charging you some dumb online play fee which is the real greedy fuckery. Despite them having more users than PlayStation and Xbox combined.
I think its funny that no one calls out the other companies greedy fuckery though. Just the one that is the nicest to their consumers (being steam)
tawaken@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I never said GOG is good either, ugh what’s wrong with you.
You’re trying to defend Steam’s 30% fee for no reason.
Also if you think “sale is good” and “Steam is customer friendly” then why are you so mad when I talked about Steam’s 30% fee? I just said it’s too high for just a game launcher. Steam’s fee acts like tariff, if Steam lowers fee little bit, game price will go down too. Which is super customer friendly. Don’t you like it?
Look, I don’t care how much you fangirling Steam, but it certainly doesn’t help Steam any better, I would say.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
You mean all of them? PlayStation, Xbox, and GOG literally the only two that don’t do this is Itch.io and Epic and Epic games store hasn’t been profitable since it came out in 2018. And Itch is pretty much indie games only. Please name one other competitor that sells AAA titles that doesn’t do that besides epic which again hasn’t been profitable as a game store since 2018. They supplement it all with that fortnite money.
You want steam to be the only one that has AAA titles for sale that doesn’t take the same percentage cut every single other one takes?
Not fangirling either I’m pointing out that your hate is completely unwarranted. You should hate the gaming industry as a whole if you hate the pricing model it has set up.
The reason people put their games on PlayStation, Xbox, GOG and Steam is because that’s where all the players are. They could easily only sell it on Epic and not sell well if they wanted to do that. (The fee being so low on Epic is why they don’t make money BTW give it a search online)
These developers could even set up their own payment processing system and sell it directly on their own website which would take about, oh look at that 20 - 30% of profits without any of the exposure PS, Xbox, GOG, and Steam gives you. I wonder why they don’t do that if its such a bad deal for them?
tawaken@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Calm down bro. I don’t hate Steam. I have hundreds of games on Steam and I launch Steam every day, play some games.
Ah yes, cashing process. Steam takes 30% after transactional fees applied, you know that right? Or are you talking about web/transactional server cost? Yeah it costs some but not like that much as you mentioned. Still feels like 30% of fee is too much for just a game launcher with cashing process. I don’t care about your business models with lots of swear, without solid convincing data about 30% of fee is necessary to maintain Steam.
Also swearing too much doesn’t make you look good, I’m sorry but I felt like talking to an angry cult member.