Comment on How will the Military be after this mess with Trump?
tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
A) You respect someone who is willing to follow ‘insane’ orders??? Whereas I respect people who follow a higher code of ethics, even if it comes with risk.
flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 20 hours ago
What options do they really have?
Do you even know what kind of punishments a soldier would endure if they refuse orders? Quite a lot. You sign up with the military, you are signing your life over to them.
gustofwind@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I have much more respect for the soldier that disobeys orders but that’s just me
Following illegal orders is not an excuse and has been rejected for centuries (except by Germans lol)
The [Court of Military Appeals] has held that “the justification for acts done pursuant to orders does not exist if the order was of such a nature that a man of ordinary sense and understanding would know it to be illegal”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 18 hours ago
This premise must be rejected. You do NOT have to respect them for that reason alone, and certainly not above all else.
Did Nazi soldiers deserve respect, because they were just following orders and they followed those orders and what options did they really have? Were they not also facing the potential of harsh punishment if they did not?
Not having good alternative options is not an excuse for following orders you know are wrong. Respect is earned when your morality supersedes your orders, despite the potential (and sometimes very real and significant) punishments. Your intentions only get you so far, eventually you need to act or else any remaining respect for you will be gone.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Do you think they didn’t know what they were signing up for?
edgemaster72@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
You probably shouldn’t be in a military if you can’t endure punishment from… a military.
FatVegan@leminal.space 7 hours ago
What are they supposed to do? Not shoot children and get a slap on the wrist or even go to jail?