Comment on Why do some Americans "feel ashamed" for being American even when it's not their fault?

thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  We look like fucking morons on the world stage.

  The only sort of solace to this, is that many other countries are clearly following the same path, so its not something inherent to just the US. Idiots are everywhere, and they vote.

  Everyone is pointing to the US, but the same initial precursors are happening under their own nose.

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  • West_of_West@piefed.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Canada has voted against the populist right for the last decade. And each time the Conservative party chooses some one more right wing. And each time they get a bit closer to winning.

    Trump galvanized people last time, scared them away from the right. This time he seems to be inspiring the right wing politicians, and people live it.

    I don’t know if we can hold out much longer.

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  • QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    i hate when people shit on the US but don’t acknowledge any sort of solutions to put in their own country to avoid this situation

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    • calcopiritus@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The easiest solutions to the US problem are already solved in most other western countries. That’s why the US is the first (and at this time, the only one) that turned fascist.

      Legal guns are uniquely a US problem. Having a system that only allows 2 political parties is a uniquely US problem. Limitless (in the billions!) political donations is a uniquely US problem. Relying on the stock market for retirement is a uniquely US problem.

      I’m not saying that the rest of the western countries turning fascist is impossible, but it’s much harder. Most fascists are contained to their fascist political party. So until there aren’t enough fascist individuals, they can be mostly ignored. Of course, once they are enough fascists, the fascist party will inevitably win, and there’s nothing that can stop them at that point.

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      • QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        A multi party system over time (decades or centuries even) turns to 2 parties, then turns to one.

        I agree on the guns tho

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  • kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    While agreeing for the most part, it’s painfully clear as someone in the EU how politics in the US empower far right rethorics everywhere else. While politicians in my country have condemned the actions of the US, the political landscape has shifted dramatically.

    Everyone is pointing at the US because their politics trickles down into ours, not the other way around.

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  • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    False equivalency.

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    • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How is it a false equivalency? It’s the same exact people astroturfing the movements in those places too. It’s literally the same phenomenon

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    • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh look a Canadian that can’t see their own descent into the far right fascist rabbit hole on the horizon. Somehow even watching the US, you seem to still be headed that direction as if it couldn’t possibly happen in Canada. Because… reasons?

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