Oh btw. I think some variants of Yue dialect are already near extinct. Taishanese (台山話 Taishanese, not to be confused with Taiwan) My parents are from Taishan and we were born in Guangzhou, so my parents never spoke Taishanese to us… cuz we lived in Guangzhou. Like… Cantonese had a higher “Prestiege” than Taishanese… I mean Guangzhou is a City, it urban. Taishanese is rural, its a bunch of villages. So yea… they only speak Taishanese to my grandparents and I think my parents sometimes speak Taishanese to each other. Then they turn to me and my brother and they just speak Cantonese. I later noticed that and it felt kinda odd lol. Like a different social circle, like the older people are people I can’t relate to, they have a different tongue. Like when I was younger I didn’t even notice the distinction and sort of mixed some Taishanese sounds into my Cantonese, but then I later realized it was two different languages lol. Apparantly my brain didn’t really distinguish it and I thought they were mutually intelligible.
Anyways, I could underatand Taishanese, but don’t feel comfortable speaking it. I never spoken it, because I just speak Cantonese and my maternal grandmother would understand it anyways. So… yeah… that’s how languages die. They never taught me, there is not much materials. Not really any TV Shows like Hong Kong TV and Movies. So… yep… Taishanese is a dying language. And anyone speaking Taishanese is rural… so… very conservative… and I don’t like conservatives… so… yeah… oopsie, language dead…
Cantonese, however, I’m more warm towards Cantonese compared to Taishanese. HK people are very progressive. So I like it more. HK loves freedom, so… in a way… using Cantonese is defiance against the CCP.
But I think my parents didn’t speak Cantonese to me because on my dad’s side, there are relatives from Hong Kong… so maybe they didn’t want them to think of us as rural peasants? But then again, we did live in Guangzhou, so that was probably already a reason enough in of itself. Some immigrants to western countries don’t even teach their kids their native tongue… so there’s that.
So tell me something, do you also speak English or do you use translation software? Your English to me, an American in a southern state, seems flawless, possibly better than my own. No judgement from me, by the way, just curiosity.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
So you’re saying Cantonese, being the top 11 most popular, will survive?
Lets hope…
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yep! For 100 years.
But in 200 years, it’s down to 9 languages. And number one (by a lot) is Simlish. It’s a long story.
Nemo@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
It’s a victim of an intentional extermination campaign, isn’t it? So maybe not Cantonese.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Oh btw. I think some variants of Yue dialect are already near extinct. Taishanese (台山話 Taishanese, not to be confused with Taiwan) My parents are from Taishan and we were born in Guangzhou, so my parents never spoke Taishanese to us… cuz we lived in Guangzhou. Like… Cantonese had a higher “Prestiege” than Taishanese… I mean Guangzhou is a City, it urban. Taishanese is rural, its a bunch of villages. So yea… they only speak Taishanese to my grandparents and I think my parents sometimes speak Taishanese to each other. Then they turn to me and my brother and they just speak Cantonese. I later noticed that and it felt kinda odd lol. Like a different social circle, like the older people are people I can’t relate to, they have a different tongue. Like when I was younger I didn’t even notice the distinction and sort of mixed some Taishanese sounds into my Cantonese, but then I later realized it was two different languages lol. Apparantly my brain didn’t really distinguish it and I thought they were mutually intelligible.
Anyways, I could underatand Taishanese, but don’t feel comfortable speaking it. I never spoken it, because I just speak Cantonese and my maternal grandmother would understand it anyways. So… yeah… that’s how languages die. They never taught me, there is not much materials. Not really any TV Shows like Hong Kong TV and Movies. So… yep… Taishanese is a dying language. And anyone speaking Taishanese is rural… so… very conservative… and I don’t like conservatives… so… yeah… oopsie, language dead…
Cantonese, however, I’m more warm towards Cantonese compared to Taishanese. HK people are very progressive. So I like it more. HK loves freedom, so… in a way… using Cantonese is defiance against the CCP.
But I think my parents didn’t speak Cantonese to me because on my dad’s side, there are relatives from Hong Kong… so maybe they didn’t want them to think of us as rural peasants? But then again, we did live in Guangzhou, so that was probably already a reason enough in of itself. Some immigrants to western countries don’t even teach their kids their native tongue… so there’s that.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
So tell me something, do you also speak English or do you use translation software? Your English to me, an American in a southern state, seems flawless, possibly better than my own. No judgement from me, by the way, just curiosity.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Overseas Cantonese Speakers Unite!
大家一齊講廣東話！
Oh wait, shit, the 2nd Gens are already abandoning the language…
Oh well… 🤷♂️
Rip, it was fun while it lasted.
There will be one day no one will be able to listen to 海闊天空 and actually understand the lyrics with their ears.
So sad…