Comment on Valve's new hardware will NOT be loss leaders

Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• Deconceptualist@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Just playing devil’s advocate here. I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but there are some interesting factors at play.

  1. The Steam Machine won’t need a screen or battery, two of the most expensive components on the Deck. So that can go into better CPU/GPU/RAM instead.
  2. Valve proved they can make a successful physical hardware product with the deck. That gives them a lot of negotiating power with AMD to get the best deal they can.
  3. Unlike with the Deck, they’re releasing the new gadgets in almost all major countries simultaneously. That means they’ve may have already started manufacturing months ago, and are benefiting from economy of scale at an entirely new level.

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  • themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Steam Machine is also bigger. Small costs money if you want powerfull.

    Also, it’s newer hardware.

    I also think it will be priced at least a 100€ above the Deck, but I would also be willing to pay that for a console/living room computer.

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• TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’m fully expecting an 800+ USD price tag. And I’ve made my peace with that.

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  • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That's my average, but wouldn't be super surprised if it was up to $1000 due to tariff and AI shenanigans

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The other problem is that the tariffs could be totally different by the time it releases. I fully suspect that the tariffs are the reason that we haven’t got a price yet.

      It would be funny if it is noticeably more expensive in the US though like with the Switch 2.

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    • TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Really I’m just hoping it’s not much more than a PS5 Pro or Xbox Series X.

      I don’t want either of those, but would love a gaming PC, but don’t have time to build or have the money to shop one really.

      So this is a really good above middle ground, assuming it’s less than 1k.

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  • Anissem@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Please Valve take my moneys

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• ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It’s newer hardware in a bigger form factor.

  It should be 6x as powerful, that shouldn’t be a surprise.

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  • Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The power is not a surprise because they said how powerful it will be. I never said anything to the contrary?

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    • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Sure, I should have clarified not surprised by the power or the price.

      It makes sense that as more and more power becomes available, the price doesn’t necessarily have to increase.

      Computers (especially CPUs/GPUs/SOCs etc) are becoming more and more powerful all the time, and more and more efficient all the time. It doesn’t mean that the price of them has to rise.

      The fact that it’s 6 times as powerful doesn’t mean it should be more expensive than the most expensive version of the Steam Deck. The fact that it’s 6 times as powerful should be entirely expected.

      Hopefully this is a detailed enough comment to clearly explain my thoughts on this.

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