*typetypetype*
*3D printed arm connected to raspberry pi opens wine bottle on desk*
*glug-glug-glug*
Now I’m ready to use my pc
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SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 7 months agoDo you ever feel tired of having to type 55 lines of commands into the console just to open Wine to actually use your pc?
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 7 months ago
aniki@lemm.ee 7 months ago
[deleted]SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I can install whatever I want without any command lines lmao. Thanks for proving my point. Windows just kinda works with an (mostly) intuitive UI and no need to remember thousands of commands which make no sense.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Windows just kinda works
This is how you made clear that you aren’t very experienced. The type of shit that goes wrong with Linux and Windows has a lot of overlap. The difference being that if Linux breaks you have a chance to learn something and fix it. Whereas when Windows inevitably bricks your system with a shitty update that got force installed, you normally have to reinstall your OS
Just admit that your issue with Linux is that you learned a thing and don’t want to learn another because you’re a lazy coward.
SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Never had a windows brick on me but nice fantasy argument I’ll keep in my backpocket
rescue_toaster@lemm.ee 7 months ago
You say this as if command line is bad? I love the command line for certain tasks. A very common task I do is convert an image from one filetype to another. How does this work on windows? Assuming I have a program that works with each image filetype, I open up the program, click on some menus and dropdown selections and click convert or “save as file type”. On linux, where every major distro has imagemagick installed by default I type
convert image.jpg image.pdfand done. I mean, how much easier can that be?
Or another example is merging a bunch of pdfs. I imagine adobe acrobat can do this, but I’ve never bothered to learn how, as I quickly learned that I can do it using pdftk on linux by typing
pdftk file1.pdf file2.pdf cat output merged.pdfand done. If I do happen to forget the exact syntax for that command, google gives me the answer instantly.
If there’s a difficult command line thing to do with lots of options that can get confusing, there is a GUI interface that someone has written that has the dropdown boxes so you don’t HAVE to learn the specific options, but a little bit of learning the command line makes many tasks way more convenient than a typical windows GUI program.
Regarding wine, you’ve obviously have never used it (or likely even linux). I used my linux pc for 13 years before installing wine to play WoW. (side note to another of your strange assertions, I knew zero programming languages when I switched to linux.) Although, I wasn’t really gaming at all in that time period. I mainly do work on my pc, and the software I use is so much more convenient to us on linux than windows: mainly latex and vim. Some friend asked me to play WoW with them and I said “If I can get it to run on linux, I will.” Kind of thinking it would be a huge pain in the ass to get to run. But the whole process went super smooth, it was maybe 3 commands and now I use zero command line to launch WoW using wine.
Finally, I don’t like the windows UI. Floating desktop managers always annoyed me (including the linux ones such as gnome) whenever I needed multiple windows displayed at once. Way too much fiddliness adjusting window sizes and borders. I learned about tiling window managers, and that’s what I use now. Is tiling even possible on windows? I know you can win+arrow to kinda do this, but then rearranging can be a pain. I know this is all personal preference and most people like floating windows, but it’s a choice I can make on linux.
SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I say that as in linux is not well designed if it needs years of CS experience to run and maintain, especially when its alternative is windows which works intuitively.
It’s not made better by the fact that linuxboys constantly make up stuff about windows, like the comment which I originally replied to that got under the skin of all the 13 people in the world that use linux on their pc
mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Yah but you need to do 55 clicks instead to install some program after downloading it from browser.
You can install and run wine from either GUI(even less clicks) or just a oneliner command
SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 7 months ago
55 clicks? Just a double click on the installer and go through the wizard, ez pz, especially when compared to
-git sudo 82737492 dor kror o k /87 +91 ||qidl
Just for it not to work since you don’t have the required punchcard from 60s
agent_flounder@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Not really because I just use the stuff. I only use the command line for very basic stuff, usually.
Linux is really nowhere near as hard as you’re making it out to be, 99% of the time.
Yeah, there are times when you run into edge cases that are frustrating. Although I’ve had that with windows once in awhile.
I’ve used Mint for about 10y then ran into a situation where AMD gfx card was too new for the kernel and switched to a Fedora based distro. Which is kind of outrageous to have to do that. But that’s the first time in a decade.
I try to stick to hardware that is fairly mainstream or which implements mainstream standards.
It helps a lot if you’re comfortable with bash. Otherwise if you run into issues and some website gives you a bunch of commands they look like line noise.
I mean, *nix is kind of arcane. But once you know about command format, pipes, redirects, and maybe a couple dozen commands, it gets a lot better.
I learned all this stuff back in the late 80s so it is second nature to me. But it was a learning curve back then. But then, so is powershell or dos.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 months ago
linuxmint-user-guide.readthedocs.io/…/edge.html
agent_flounder@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Cool will check out. I would love to get back to using Mint.
LemmysMum@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The general populace are nowhere near at competent as you’re making them out to be, 99% of the time.
agent_flounder@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I don’t disagree with the bit about general users… but I don’t know that Windows handles idiots all that much better, based on how it’s handled me (an idiot).
Sometimes issues come up in an OS which require some intensive searching or a help desk (H4B grrr). Although I haven’t had to reinstall Win anytime in the last like 15 years or more.
I think software availability plays significantly in terms of viability of Linux for desktop.
LemmysMum@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Windows is still a middle ground of functionality and user safety. Better for corporate tasks than a Mac, better for gaming than both, and benefits from massive marketshare making their systems, superusers still know their way around windows as well as any knows theirs around Linux.
Developers aren’t going to go after a 3% desktop market share of Linux users so most software development is still Windows and .net based in the corpo and developer spaces.
Linus as a desktop OS lacks both usability and compatability still. I don’t have to emulate shit in windows to do anything. No wine, no Proton, nothing. A normal user never has to touch a console in windows. Until you can go the lifetime of a PC for a regular user not needing the console then Linux will be as viable as Windows for ‘regular’ users.