Comment on What the democrats just did.

• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Did you even read your own source? <5% of registered dems blamed the dems, and ~21% of registered independents.

  …yougov.com/…/53352-are-people-changing-their-min…

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  • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Americans are divided in who they blame more for the shutdown: In a choice between congressional Democrats and congressional Republicans, 32% blame Democrats most, 35% Republicans, and 28% both equally. Compared to when we asked this question in the October 17 - 20 Economist / YouGov survey, the share blaming mostly Republicans has fallen 4 percentage points and the share blaming both sides equally has gone up by 4 points.

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    • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Funny that you didn’t post the parts immediately before and after that snippet. Before:

      A YouGov survey released Friday found 32 percent of respondents blame Democrats for the shutdown, while 35 percent fault Republicans and 28 percent say both parties are equally responsible.

      After:

      But over the past month, net approval for how parties are handling the shutdown has worsened for both President Trump (-21 to -27) and congressional Republicans (-23 to -27). Net approval for congressional Democrats has stayed low but mostly unchanged (-25 to -26) since October, according to YouGov.

      You’re just hyper-focusing on the part that you find rhetorically convenient. More people still blamed the Republicans and support for the Republicans’s handling of the shutdown was falling faster.

      A shutdown, furthermore, that most voters were against to begin with.

      Lmao did you just provide more evidence to undermine your own position?

      Who would you blame more if there is a shutdown of the federal government at the end of the month, the Democrats in Congress, Donald Trump and the Republicans in Congress or both equally? Or have you not heard enough to say?

      Democrats in Congress 19%

      Donald Trump and the Republicans in Congress 26%

      Grow a spine.

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      • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re just hyper-focusing on the part that you find rhetorically convenient. More people still blamed the Republicans and support for the Republicans’s handling of the shutdown was falling faster.

        “More people blamed the Republicans, but most people are not in support of the shutdown and the numbers for the Dems are worsening”

        Yes, clearly this contradicts what I initially commented.

        Go back to remedial literacy. Get a passing grade this time, if you can understand which of the funny symbols that is.

        Lmao did you just provide more evidence to undermine your own position?

        I’m sorry that you’re illiterate.

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        Grow a spine.

        Grow a brain, or a sense of morality. But pro-genocide bootlickers like you revel in the deaths of minorities, if only it’s done by the fascists wearing the right team colors. That’s why you deny the Uyghur Genocide, after all.

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      • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Valid.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We can all agree shithole politicians caused this shutdown.

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• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You just defend the worst actions of democrats no matter what they do.

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  • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So no response to actual evidence that the voters weren’t behind them, cool.

    I guess your inner Republican craves ‘truthiness’ over truth, huh?

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    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So no response to actual evidence that the voters weren’t behind them, cool.

      You’re not owed interaction on your terms. You’re not entitled to a debate, sea lion.

      I don’t support the 8 Dems who broke ranks

      You are by making excuses for their actions. And I don’t believe for an instant that you don’t support this. You had your one little poll just ready to go for when your wing of the party did what you wanted, just like you spent an entire year supporting them BECAUSE they were selling weapons to netanyahu.

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      • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re not owed interaction on your terms. You’re not entitled to a debate, sea lion.

        lmao

        The meaning of Sea Lioning is not “Refutes my points 😭” but “Insists on an engagement by bad faith inquiries”

        Engaging with me, and after I presented evidence, not a question, is as far from proving me a Sea Lion as you can get.

        Sorry that refuting your bullshit hurt your feelings.

        You are by making excuses for their actions.

        Where did I excuse their actions?

        And I don’t believe for an instant that you don’t support this.

        lmao

        You had your one little poll just ready to go for when your wing of the party did what you wanted,

        lmao

        just like you spent an entire year supporting them BECAUSE they were selling weapons to netanyahu.

        Fucking lmao.

        I’ve been calling out Israeli genocide and advocating against all US aid for Israel for longer than Lemmy has existed, but go off, I guess.

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    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s really not a good idea to put ALL your Credibility Eggs into the Poll Basket. MAGAs have been gaming the polls for years, the Conservative Propaganda Machine tells them how, and encourages them, and they are becoming more and more unreliable. It’s a very bad idea to rely on one single poll for all your evidence.

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