Comment on She is making a GREAT point

Tabooki@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Scirocco@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The best option all around that I’ve seen is Vasagel, which is the western development based on RISUG which was a successful Indian trial

  www.planaformen.com/vasalgel

  The major complication for it has been that no pharma wants to invest in it, likely because if doesn’t have good profit potential.

  It is a one-time ‘shot’ of a physical gel that blocks the vas deferens (sperm channel) and is fully reversible simply by being flushed out again.

  However, since it is not an ongoing monthly profit ahem, prescription, there is not a lot of money to be made.

  No hormones, no pills, fully reversible, simply blocks the sperm exactly like a vasectomy, just very easily reversed. It can all be done in clinic with a syringe (perhaps tho the syringe will be a blocker for some men)

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  • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Is the syringe in the dong? Because that’s a beeg no for me. I’m not squeamish around needles but am squeamish about the dong and dings.

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    • python@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I mean it seems about equally as invasive as an IUD. I bet people could get used to the concept.

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      • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I wasn’t talking about people.

        I’m talking about me.

        I don’t want needles (or any sharp objects) close to my genitals.

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    • Scirocco@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Well, I’ve not had it since it isn’t available yet.

      But I get what you mean about the needles in the dong.

      But most likely, the needle is through the side of the scrote, which might not be much better. Probably best to just not watch. It is less invasive than a vasectomy, since it’s a needle and not a scalpel, but ofc it’s not as simple as a pill

      On the other hand, it’s one-and-done and nevermore worried about unwanted paternity claims.

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    • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Not in your dong, the only thing in there is the urethra, and unless you never want to pee again you don’t want to block that. The injection would probably be somwhere close to where you would cut the sperm duct in a vasectomy.

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  • theparadox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So once again, it’s capitalism. Surprise surprise.

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    • Scirocco@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yea it’s pretty clear.

      Capitalism and religion, with maybe a little bit of ‘public health’ thrown in

      There’s strong bias against contraception in general from some religious groups, and it is strongest against the “easier” forms. For example, among Catholics technically ALL contraception is forbidden, but condoms are more acceptable than an IUD, both of which are considered by some sects to be ‘abortifacient’ — on the theory that it merely prevents a fertilized egg from implanting on the uterine wall.

      So condoms are ‘better’ because it is a barrier method.

      The only Catholic-approved BC is abstinence of course.

      Public Health also has a strong bias towards condoms, because of their protection against STIs. Of course, actual proper condom use is… inconsistent at best for most people.

      Anyhow, the easiest and least intrusive methods of BC are usually viewed with the most suspicion and disapproval from all sides, and Vasagel/RISUG is like… the most extreme example of that.

      It is:

      • relatively inexpensive
      • extremely effective
      • one-time clinic visit
      • fully reversible, with no recovery period
      • impossible to forget or accidentally nullify

      Unfortunately none of these factors endear it to the capitalists, the puritans, or the public-health hand-wringers*

      *To be clear, i support public health goals, but the AIDS crisis has put a strong and lasting tint on the overall emphasis/insurance condoms are the only way

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