Comment on Why are people using the "þ" character?

• sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Unvoiced and voiced? Which of my uses is which here?

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  • davidagain@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Voiced is like the th in the, unvoiced is like the th in thin.

    Unvoiced sounds the same whispered, whereas voiced loses its buzz when you whisper.

    Voiced:
    that then with the then this breathe bother those though

    Unvoiced:
    thin thanks width breath both youth pithy smith thatch thought throughout thorough

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    • notfromhere@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      How can I subscribe for more language nuance explanations?

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      • davidagain@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        historyofenglishpodcast.com (Not me, but I enjoyed it a great deal, one of my favourite podcasts ever.)

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    • sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Thats really cool thank you

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    • Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Why is it that the Dutch press operators that Caxton hired to run his printing presses, seldom catch any blame for the spelling changes they made to English? The one I always remember is Ghost. Those Dutch press operators decided that Gost should look more like the the Dutch word Gheest. So Ghost got it’s “h”. As did ghoul because you wouldn’t that to be too different…And other words got the same treatments. Thankfully many of the changes didn’t stick but enough have.

      If only the printing press hadn’t been introduced to English until after the Great Vowel Shift was over, spelling and spoken would be much closer aligned.

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      • Soggy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The explanation I heard was that “ghost” stuck around because “Holy Ghost” was in the printed bibles and people didn’t question that authority.

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  • Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It “should” be:

    Honestly ðis þread makes me sad. Can’t a fella be a li’l quirky in peace?

    Historically, the þorn was often used for boþ as well ðough, and it’s definitely tricky for modern Eŋlish speakers to distiŋuish.

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  • v4ld1z@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    To tell which sounds are voiced or voiceless, put a finger or two on your larynx and look for the vibration. /th/ as in “thread” is voiceless - no vibration - whereas /th/ in “the” is voiced - vibration

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  • Aqarius@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I believe first is voiced, second isn’t. IIRC rule of thumb is voiced makes a D, unvoiced makes a T, so, “dis tread”.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Voiced is the buzzy Th. Unvoiced is the hissy Th.

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