God forbid people enjoying their little coop adventures. I will never understand this community’s hate boner for everything online. Just stick to your single player stuff and be happy. Why dig trenches for something that doesn‘t affect you?
justsquigglez@leminal.space 1 day ago
Can’t wait for the news about it inevitably dropping in players. Followed by news of permanent server shutdown within the next 2 years (I’m being extremely generous.)
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 day ago
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 day ago
We used to get multiplayer games that weren’t dependent on some server that we don’t control, and now they’ve all turned into this. Then we read about all the layoffs that happened because this model is inherently unsustainable, and we have a giant gap in the medium’s history of games that we used to be able to play but now cannot because the business made a gamble on a type of game that sometimes becomes a money printer.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Oh it‘s that empty layoff argument again. Nevermind.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s only empty if you haven’t been paying attention.
Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Lemmy’s gaming community is honestly so insufferable, lol.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I dont hate coop online games. I hate PvEvP Extraction Looter Shooters.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 day ago
How many have you played?
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Please note that the genre is PvEvP Extraction Looter Shooters. So some games, like Deep Rock Galactic and Helldivers 2, are missing from the list because they do not fit that category.
I have tried to play (ie, only played a few hours each, not like multiple days):
- The Cycle Frontier
- Escape from Tarkov
- ARC Raiders (the closed beta in June 2023)
- Dark and Darker
- Delta Force Hazard Ops
- Lost Light
- Marauders
- Hunt Showdown
- Gray Zone Warfare
- Incursion Red River
Games that I tried that don’t exactly fit the genre but are close enough I feel like I should include them:
- Steel Hunters (the closed playtest in March 2023)
- Sea of Thieves
- SYNDUALITY: Echo of Ada
Its not that I haven’t given the genre an honest go.
I hate that death means I lose not only the items I picked up, but also the items I brought into a match. The behaviour of players in this particular genre is almost always peak toxic. I am thankful that the genre exists, because it is a sponge taking some of the toxic people from other games. The people that derive fun and pleasure purely from ruining someone else’s game experience (like cheating, harassing, etc.) It is not a genre of game I enjoy, because some other players always ruin the fun.
Some games had a PvE mode, which was fine but the loot was limited to be beasically useless. I don’t understand why they wouldn’t just have separated inventories, and perhaps allow transfers of items below a set gear level to keep the PvP side economy balanced.
justsquigglez@leminal.space 22 hours ago
Dude, calm down. My point was that there has been like 60 live service games like this that have shut down within the past 5-10 years. Did you see me say anything about the gameplay itself? No, I only mentioned the player base and servers.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 day ago
To be fair, I told my friends that I thought The Finals would last only 7 months, but it stabilized around a little north of 10k concurrent players, which is probably fewer than the devs were hoping for but enough to keep it going.
barooboodoo@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Their handling of The Finals is a big reason I’m going to invest some time and money into Arc Raiders. It’s a really beautiful game with amazing sound design. I urge anyone who isn’t generally into extraction shooters to give it a shot this weekend, I don’t mind dying and losing shit as long as I’m making progress on missions and whatnot.
Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
It’s been the only extraction shooter I’ve ever enjoyed. I’m 100% going to buy it on the 30th, baring they don’t pull a u-turn in gameplay last minute. But I have 0 worries with Embark at this point, as I agree they’ve done an *excellent * job handling The Finals. It’s proof GaaS can be great if done correctly.